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Seeing @Gary Kline 's post above there have been a few changes this week that leads into my long question below for a 2014 Canadian Cherokee.

There was little to no issue until this Cherokee came south. It has been maintained and all recalls and updates (except the May 11 2023 49A which looks like a repeat of the R27 in 2015) at the dealerships in Alberta and BC. If it has/had issues with the backup camera it was not noticed as most of northern BC and Alberta had it covered in mud/dirt/snow most of the time.

I have read through many forums and threads regarding Uconnect and the 2019 update that is only for Canada and Mexico, which I have also confirmed during 3 separate phone call transfers, one from UConnect Canada, and twice from FCA to the USA UConnect support offices that it does not exist in the USA system.

This week we have the forced disabling of the UConnect app to use the branded Jeep app that started the saga as the Jeep app has no UConnect settings and devices are now having problems connecting to the Jeep. I figured if I needed to update the system I might as well update the maps since the ones in the system are from 2013 and about half of Vancouver and the lower mainland is incorrect (roads do not exist or have been blocked/rerouted).

So you go to the UConnect Canada website, find that maps are available, it says you need to check your VIN for software updates and the site sends you to the USA Uconnect site (which does not have the update in its database because it does not affect USA vehicles). Ok, go to a local dealer, they run a check on the same website and it says no update because it is checking from the USA.

Keeping in mind that this vehicle has had multiple software updates in the ECU and transaxle, it appears to never had a UConnect update from the factory, it is still on 14.25.5 with maps from 2012 and 2013. So much for those map updates every 6 months.

Since the old VIN software search for the Canadian side of UConnect no longer exists, the dealer can not locate it, FCA says it is Uconnect Canada's problem, and UConnect Canada says it is FCA's problem, where does that leave someone who just wants their in-vehicle system to work (as the Jeep App has no UConnect settings or features) and maybe a map database from this decade.

Is there someone else to contact other than UConnect Canada, UConnect USA, FCA, HERE (the company that provides the maps if you do not have the Garmin system maps) ? There is no contact info for Stellantis on this issue unless you are in the UK.

Or do I now just keep phoning dealerships until I find one who knows about this issue?
 
Read this Thread very thoroughly: https://www.jeepcherokeeclub.com/th...threads/2015-th-uconnect-map-updates-not-possible.249064/#nested_reply_top_post
Refer to the Uconnect help phone number for Canada.
Maybe you can Private Message your fellow Canadians who have Posted.
For navigation I just buy a real GPS receiver that provides regular updates.
As long as Uconnect controls basic vehicle functions that is adequate.
I have had multiple conversations with UConnect Canada.
I have read that thread, they also have newer software than this vehicle does, so the dealer updated it at least once.

Uconnect features are quickly declining this week due to scrapping of the UConnect app, now it only connects for phone call use randomly.

Here are the great new features of the Jeep App:
No real settings or support, can not properly save Canadian dealer, can not retrieve service history, and says my Jeep has 2km in current mileage, however it does retrieve recall service, so It gets one thing right.

 
As an update since I am tired of trying to get FCA to do something and UConnect keeps passing me back and forth between Canada and USA divisions.

Pushing the system to 15.26.1 VP4 NAFTA restored handsfree and messaging connection.
At this point it is unclear why the software change restored some functionality as I do not have the TSB for that version. Also it is not clear why UConnect says no software upgrades for the VIN as version 16.13.13 also applies to USA vehicles.

In case it was missed this system was still on the factory software 14.25.5, the dealership NEVER updated it on any of the servicing or recall it went in for. There were no connection issues (except for iPhones) until the afternoon of October 16th (when UConnect app was discontinued and pushed in the Play Store).
 
Buongiorno,
Vi scrivo dall'Italia e vi ringrazio per la collaborazione.
Ho bisogno di ripristinare il software della radio SiriusXm della mia Cherokee Kl perchè nel menù impostazioni non mostra più nessun dato a seguito di un reset con applicazione dei dati di fabbrica. Tutto restaurato tranne il software della radio che non mi permette di visualizzare o ricaricare le mappe del navigatore. Ti sarei grato per il tuo interesse.
Giuseppe.
 

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Good morning,
I am writing to you from Italy and thank you for your cooperation.
I need to restore the software of the SiriusXm radio of my Cherokee Kl because in the settings menu it no longer shows any data following a reset with the application of factory data. Everything restored except the radio software which does not allow me to view or reload the navigator maps. I would be grateful for your interest.
Giuseppe.
Welcome from Utah, USA!!! I didn't even know you had Sirius XM radio in Europe. Is your Cherokee a North American imported model???😎
 
@Giuseppe
I get that image driving in Vancouver too!
Have to love maps that are 10+ years out of date. Working on updating my system so that I can get to a version that works with current maps.

Yours might be an incompatible map with your software version.

As for SiriusXM, isn't the USA version SiriusXM Guardian? When I go to that site like my manual says it send me back to SirusXM, not sure if both use the same satellites, but the regular ones that work over Canada would work over Europe.
 
The 17.11.07-NAFTA update has the strangest vehicle confirmation sequence ever. If it is really required like this it would be easy to brick a system.

Edit: I should add two thumps on the hood, two rounds of chicken dance, and a reverse rotation of all 4 tires!

Edit: In case you doubt it:
Image


Yes that is two off-on cycles, opening the drivers door twice only, and touching nothing else except waiting for time to pass.

Dance the hokey-pokey
 
Yes that is two off-on cycles, opening the drivers door twice only, and touching nothing else except waiting for time to pass.
Why the hell is everything nowadays, ten times more complicated than it needs to be??? Technology is supposed to make things easier, or so I thought...😉😎
 
Why the hell is everything nowadays, ten times more complicated than it needs to be??? Technology is supposed to make things easier, or so I thought...😉😎
Being familiar with some bootloader systems, some have security checks that rely on other sensor inputs to verify state (usually to prevent something activating and bad things happening).

Having gone through 3 other updates to get here with normal type requirements, this is a bit odd. If this is what all the future updates to the nav system are like, I see why the dealers charge $150-$300. Danger Pay - better make sure you use the bathroom before you start!

Edit: That update did indeed take an hour, the interface is significantly different!
Now I am going to sit and contemplate what:
new ecu part number is =>
ECU part number Update failed
means as you should not be able to change part numbers.
 
Buongiorno,
grazie per il tuo intervento Sembra che il mio Overland sia stato importato dal Messico. E comunque inserendo il codice Vin sul sito Jeep, risponde che non ci sono aggiornamenti disponibili. A questo punto chiedo se possibile sapere se il Firmware 17.46.01 comprende anche l'aggiornamento della radio Sirius oppure il suo programma di aggiornamento è a parte?
Grazie in anticipo.
 
Buongiorno,
grazie per il tuo intervento Sembra che il mio Overland sia stato importato dal Messico. E comunque inserendo il codice Vin sul sito Jeep, risponde che non ci sono aggiornamenti disponibili. A questo punto chiedo se possibile sapere se il Firmware 17.46.01 comprende anche l'aggiornamento della radio Sirius oppure il suo programma di aggiornamento è a parte?
Grazie in anticipo.
I have not come across 17.46.01-NAFTA for the VP4/RA4, not sure I have even saw a TSB.
 
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