[Leslie Youngblood]

so Monday they are replacing a line to the fuel tank and the charcoal system. xxing fingers this works and that I can get it under my extended warranty.

 

[DenverSteve]

so Monday they are replacing a line to the fuel tank and the charcoal system. xxing fingers this works and that I can get it under my extended warranty.

I thought from your first post that had been done. I had a similar problem with my 2008 Wrangler and all it needed was the filler tube from the cap to the tank.

 

[Mark_]

I thought from your first post that had been done. I had a similar problem with my 2008 Wrangler and all it needed was the filler tube from the cap to the tank.

But the Cherokees are different. This problem was/is seen with early 2014s only, FCA corrected the condition afterwards (can't tell you exactly what they changed though.).

 

[DenverSteve]

But the Cherokees are different. .

Different for sure but a bad filler tube is a bad filler tube. Fixing a gas tank isn't complicated: filler neck, vent tube, gas tank. It shouldn't take 3-4 trips to diagnose and repair.

 

[Mark_]

Different for sure but a bad filler tube is a bad filler tube. Filling up a gas tank isn't complicated: filler neck, vent tube, gas tank. It shouldn't take 3-4 trips to diagnose and repair.

There was a link provided earlier in this thread to a diagnostics list :
https://jeepcherokeeclub.com/4-2014...erokee-general-discussion/170193-refueling-problem-any-ideas-2.html#post1915025

Member @Desoto bought a bunch of 2014 Cherokees for his taxi fleet, in San Francisco. He's seen all the early problems, including this one. I think I recall he mentionned a few of this needed a new gas tank, and some members here have reported the same. Not all of them, but some. One has to go through that list, in order, and hope for an early resolution...

 

[Turbo2.0]

Different for sure but a bad filler tube is a bad filler tube. Fixing a gas tank isn't complicated: filler neck, vent tube, gas tank. It shouldn't take 3-4 trips to diagnose and repair.

Actually it is complicated, this isn’t your daddy’s full-time 4x4 CJ-4. Cherokees are not the only modern vehicle with fueling issues, but I understand your frustration. If you can’t consistently fill the tank - how can you accurately monitor your fuel economy?



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[Leslie Youngblood]

So my Jeep was fixed (so far xxing fingers) Once all the tubes were flushed, the vapor sensory was changed and my gas tank appears to be working now. I was able to get the warranty company to cover all this including the 2 weeks it took the 2 companies to find the problem. The Jeep dealership - Henricks' JeepbIn Hoover Alabama had told me the warranty company wasn't going to cover anything because their was trash in my gas tank. I told them I wanted to talk to the warranty company before forking out that amount of money. I contacted the warranty company and they told me that the Hendrick's Jeep dealership in Birmingham had given me incorrect information that they weren't covering it until a reason for the problem was uncover. The Jeep dealership told me it was trash in the tank. Well I took the car to another shop who then spend another week finding the problem. Thanks to Este/Vulcan Tire and Repair for saving me $1800.00 and getting the warranty company in covering the true problem. Hendrick's just lost future Jeep purchases and repairs this from this gal whom loves Jeeps and will have to go down the street to purchase her future cars. glad to be back on the road in my Jeep Cherokee. Hope this helps others with the same problem.

 

[Dodger69]

Do you have the Mopar extended warranty? Or the remaining vehicle included warranty?

 

[Jeeper]

I've had the same issue for 8 months now. It did stop (and start filling normally) for about 1 month, then again went back to being unable to fill tank unless I stand there 20 minutes trickling fuel into it. So annoying I've nearly traded it in, but I otherwise love my Cherokee Trailhawk so much I am not ready to do that just yet.



Today I used an endoscope ($38 on Amazon) to poke down the filler tube. Nothing wrong in there. Checked the valve in the tank. Nothing wrong with it. Used the scope to root-around the top of the tank and what do you know, it looks like the cable harness from what appears to be the rear passenger seat sensor unit is pushing down on what I am sure is the fuel tank breather tube, crushing it slightly. I suspect that there is so little room for error that such a small change may have the effect of causing this problem. I keep reading post after post of this issue not being solvable by dealerships or mechanics, and in many cases people are getting their fuel tanks and tubes replaced only to have the problem return. So it's either a design flaw (likely as the same components are found in Wranglers/Rubicons also) or it's happening because this particular wiring harness is squishing the breather tube again when the tank is replaced.


Here's a still from the video I just shot of my endoscoping. If anyone has any further input, I know I'd appreciate it a ton.

 

[Jeeper]

Funny you should mention this... Mine had the same issue for 6 months, but then, when I decided it was time to go nearly out of fuel so I could pull the filler hose off and check that valve, I thought I must have inadvertently fixed it because it was fine for a month after that. I bet it's because the tank got so low on fuel. Now I'm starting to think that maybe the problem is due to there being fuel caught up in the breather tube, that for some reason stays there until the tank empties. But that makes little sense.



Check out my last post to this thread for a pic I got with an endoscope of what appears to be the breather tube being crushed slightly by a bit of wiring harness.

I had the same problem, in which I was unable to put gas in the tank of my 2014 Jeep Cherokee without the gas nozzle shutting off frequently. I experienced this for several weeks. I fixed the problem by accidentally running out of gas. I had to call AAA to come and give me a few gallons of gas so I could make it to a gas station. When I did I was surprised to find I was able to fill my tank without any trouble. It's been six months since this happened and I still have no problem filling my tank. I don't know why this fixed it, and I can't say if it will work for others, but I wanted to relate my experience in hopes it can help someone.

 

[Jeeper]

Alex - With over a dozen recalls on this vehicle already and with an obvious abundance of owners having this same exact problem (not to mention many Wrangler and Rubicon owners) what I would like to know is why isn't this a recall item? Jeep should fix this at no cost to us. This is a ridiculously stupid problem that frustrates many, many Jeep owners. In fact, I will never buy another Chrysler product because of this problem specifically. Yes, it is really that bad.

Hi Leslie,
We're sorry to hear that you are experiencing this. If you would like additional assistance while working with your dealer, please feel free to send us a PM. We would be happy to connect you with a Case Specialist.
Alex
JeepCares

 

[Turbo2.0]

Sell the POS and buy a Toyota.



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[gravitywell]

Alex - With over a dozen recalls on this vehicle already and with an obvious abundance of owners having this same exact problem (not to mention many Wrangler and Rubicon owners) what I would like to know is why isn't this a recall item? Jeep should fix this at no cost to us. This is a ridiculously stupid problem that frustrates many, many Jeep owners. In fact, I will never buy another Chrysler product because of this problem specifically. Yes, it is really that bad.

Rubicon is a trim level of a Wrangler. They're not two different vehicles.

And I've been in Wrangler forums for a year and a half and seen very little to no conversations about this issue.

To have something be a recall, it needs to be a safety issues, and it needs to be a factory defect / problem that's more universal than a handful of people.

Most of these problems are people stuffing their tank with fuel after the filler clicks off. You can't recall owners.

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[txfeinbergs]

Go to an older gas station and see if you still have the problem (an old standalone shell, etc). In my case, it was the newer pumps at Costo and Racetrac that were set too sensitive. I never have an issue at the older pumps. I also think Costco got so many complaints that they reduced the sensitivity because I can now go there again.

 

[Dodger69]

I dropped off my 2014 Trailhawk at Tuttle Click in Irvine to get the vapor lock issue hopefully resolved I hope I have a better outcome considering everything I have been reading on this thread...

 

[Dodger69]

No more VAPOR LOCK!?

 

[OlivePearlman]

Just a crazy idea but what would happen if a person with the vapor lock issue tried to fill the tank slowly instead of fully depressing the pump handle. I would think at a low velocity fill up that vapor lock wouldn’t be an issue.

 

[Dodger69]

Just a crazy idea but what would happen if a person with the vapor lock issue tried to fill the tank slowly instead of fully depressing the pump handle. I would think at a low velocity fill up that vapor lock wouldn’t be an issue.

By slowly you mean at 1/20 the speed....I tried that and it’s no fun while people are waiting in line to pump gas as well....?

 

[K-Roc]

Just went through this with our 2014 Cherokee. After one fill-up it stalled repeatedly until some fuel burned down. Then the next two fills took like 20 minutes each to get half a tank in.

I hit the tank briskly with a rubber mallet like this guy did (except through the plastic aero pan) and it's fixed! It seems to be related to the rollover valve.