[Rimo12003]

Ya, I saw that you posted while I was asking. I'm going to wait for @Mark_ to chime in, but that's a standard, non AGM unit I think, and I don't think that's the one you need.

is this the correct specs needed?

 

[Flybynightcru]

That's the wrong battery!!! Your 2016 GC V6 calls for a group 49 AGM!!! 94R is what we have in our KL's. I didn't think they were the same. You need at least one of these.$229.95 at Batteries +.

 

[Flybynightcru]

I think the dude at O'Reilly's pulled up Cherokee, instead of Grand Cherokee!!! Please don't tell me that they also installed the wrong battery as well, I've already about lost all hope in humanity!!! LOL!!!🤔

 

[AtlCade69]

I saw that too! But, since it's pulling off their website, it looks like the buyer put in Cherokee on the search instead of Grand Cherokee. That's a user search, not a shop search.
PICNIC...

 

[Mark_]

View attachment 212667 is this the correct specs needed?

Sorry for the late reply. Yeah that group 65 battery is all wrong. Not sure what they're doing at Oreilly's...

Do you have the 3.6L or the V8 ?

If I'm reading this right, the 3.6L requires a group 94R AGM (just like ours in Cherokees) and the V8s require the bigger group 49 AGM.

They need to make this right. And make sure they sell you an AGM.

 

[Rimo12003]

That's the wrong battery!!! Your 2016 GC V6 calls for a group 49 AGM!!! 94R is what we have in our KL's. I didn't think they were the same. You need at least one of these.$229.95 at Batteries +. View attachment 212668

Ok great...thank you so much for helping me out

I think the dude at O'Reilly's pulled up Cherokee, instead of Grand Cherokee!!! Please don't tell me that they also installed the wrong battery as well, I've already about lost all hope in humanity!!! LOL!!!🤔

I think he did too lol cause they said they're gonna give me the correct battery for the same price I paid for the wrong one

Sorry for the late reply. Yeah that group 65 battery is all wrong. Not sure what they're doing at Oreilly's...

Do you have the 3.6L or the V8 ?

If I'm reading this right, the 3.6L requires a group 94R AGM (just like ours in Cherokees) and the V8s require the bigger group 49 AGM.

They need to make this right. And make sure they sell you an AGM.

Its definitely a 3.6L and yes they're gonna make it righy

 

[Flybynightcru]

Ya, I just went to O'Reilly's website, put in 2016 GC V6, and what's the first thing to come up, AGM Super Start PLATINUM, but when you scroll down to the "Best Fit", it's this one, AGM Super Start PLATINUM 49. If they are going the O'Reilly's route, then this is the one. If it were me, I'm spending a few bucks more for a Northstar or an X2, but that's just me

 

[Flybynightcru]

Sorry for the late reply. Yeah that group 65 battery is all wrong. Not sure what they're doing at Oreilly's...

Do you have the 3.6L or the V8 ?

If I'm reading this right, the 3.6L requires a group 94R AGM (just like ours in Cherokees) and the V8s require the bigger group 49 AGM.

They need to make this right. And make sure they sell you an AGM.

Mark, what's the difference between the two? They must be similar size, and space wise??? Batteries + showed that Duracell AGM in 49 for the V6, then O'Reilly, the 94R was at the top of the list??? Does that mean a 49 will work in our KL's as well???

 

[Rimo12003]

Thank you guys so much for helping me out I truly appreciate you guys...I truly hope you all get all the blessings in the world Thank You Guys

 

[Flybynightcru]

Thank you guys so much for helping me out I truly appreciate you guys...I truly hope you all get all the blessings in the world Thank You Guys

No worries, glad we got that straightend out for you. Keep us posted on your outcome when they get the right one installed...

 

[AtlCade69]

Mark, what's the difference between the two? They must be similar size, and space wise??? Batteries + showed that Duracell AGM in 49 for the V6, then O'Reilly, the 94R was at the top of the list??? Does that mean a 49 will work in our KL's as well???

The 49 is 1".5 longer, possible-maybe, but you'd need to do some fiddling to the tray and hold-down. I'd just prefer the X2 in the 94R. Better specs/and warranty than most...

 

[Flybynightcru]

The 49 is 1".5 longer, possible-maybe, but you'd need to do some fiddling to the tray and hold-down. I'd just prefer the X2 in the 94R. Better specs/and warranty than most...

Ya, I'm with you on the X2. If I didn't get another "Sub Par" factory Mopar replaced under warranty after just 14 months of service just yesterday, I would absolutely be running the X2. It's going to be the next one for sure. I was just curious about the size difference to benefit the OP, with getting the one that fits the best, as it was showing both options for the GC. After this second Mopar bites the bullet, I'll run nothing but 94R X2 in my Trailhawk, way too much drama associated with just the slightest voltage irregularities on these things, and I want the biggest, baddest battery money can buy...LOL!!!😎

 

[AtlCade69]

Agreed, not a GC expert, but logic dictates that a battery that differs only in length (the 94R being shorter), the 94R will fit in the space of the 49, but not the other way around.
I've been burnt too many times on the value batteries, some not even lasting a year, sure they were still under warranty, but c'mon...

 

[Mark_]

The 49 is 1".5 longer, possible-maybe, but you'd need to do some fiddling to the tray and hold-down. I'd just prefer the X2 in the 94R. Better specs/and warranty than most...

Yeah the group 49/H8 don't fit in our KL trays. Too long. Other than length, all other dimensions are equal to the 94R/H7, so is positive terminal postition.

I was incorrect earlier : the 3.6L GC does take a group 49 AGM. This is the one O'reilly sells :

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/platinum-5830/more-powersport-30734/atv---motorcycle-accessories-16835/battery---automotive-16864/battery---best-fit-16245/1765803be971/super-start-platinum-battery-group-size-49-h8/49pltj/6038443/2017/jeep/grand-cherokee?q=group+49+battery&pos=0

I double-checked with Batteries+ and Autozone for fitment : defintely group 49 (= H8 = 95R). Though the 94R AGM is also a good fit. Might as well go 49/H8 AGM, it has more capacity.

Just an FYI for the forum regulars : I went looking just now for a group 49 Northstar or X2 Power, kinda remembering they didn't make one. Well I stumbled onto something big : Northstar seems to have been taken over by EnerSys, the same who make Odyssey batteries. When you search Northstar's site for automotive batteries, you are redirected to the Odyssey site. Wow, didn't see that coming. Although if I had to choose which company to take Northstar over, I would pick EnerSys over Johnson Controls (JC) any day... because EnerSys already makes premium thin plate pure lead batteries, like the Northstars / X2 Power. JC goes for lower production costs over quality (our OEM Jeep batteries are JC...).
Ok I'm done

 

[Mark_]

Sorry... me again. Well, it's kinda confirmed here : PSA: Odyssey and NorthStar batteries are now the same...

Over / out.

 

[RogDeb]

@ Rimo12003,

That's the battery I bought for my CHEROKEE KL, it's an AGM, and it works great. You however have the Grand Cherokee - that may be totally different.

 

[137831]

The Grand Cherokee doesn't use the same battery as the Cherokee.

I had a 2017 JGC Limited with the 3.6L and ESS.

The OEM battery is a Lead Acid Battery, and the ESS battery is under the driver seat and its a motorcycle battery.

What is causing your issue is using the incorrect battery for the Cherokee and it not playing nice with the ESS system, throwing all kinds of things into "I don't have the inputs I'm expecting so I'm going to do nothing" routine.

You need to get the correct battery for your JGC and hook it up after leaving the cables unhooked from the battery for 10 minutes.

This should force everything to reboot and it will take care of the 50 mph problem. If it doesn't you have damaged something and need to take it to the dealer.

 

[Mark_]

The Grand Cherokee doesn't use the same battery as the Cherokee.

I had a 2017 JGC Limited with the 3.6L and ESS.

The OEM battery is a Lead Acid Battery, and the ESS battery is under the driver seat and its a motorcycle battery.

What is causing your issue is using the incorrect battery for the Cherokee and it not playing nice with the ESS system, throwing all kinds of things into "I don't have the inputs I'm expecting so I'm going to do nothing" routine.

You need to get the correct battery for your JGC and hook it up after leaving the cables unhooked from the battery for 10 minutes.

This should force everything to reboot and it will take care of the 50 mph problem. If it doesn't you have damaged something and need to take it to the dealer.

Hmm. I consulted 3 auto parts fitment guides (well, 2 auto parts and Batteries Plus Bulbs) and they all pointed to a group 49 AGM for a 3.6L 2017 GC.

Which battery did you have in yours ? O'reilly's choice for the OP, originally, was a wet group 65.
I honestly have a hard time processing how a car manufacturer can fit a wet battery under a seat, inside the cabin, with the spill hazard and gassing... I know they have vent tubes on them, but still...

 

[137831]

Hmm. I consulted 3 auto parts fitment guides (well, 2 auto parts and Batteries Plus Bulbs) and they all pointed to a group 49 AGM for a 3.6L 2017 GC.

Which battery did you have in yours ? O'reilly's choice for the OP, originally, was a wet group 65.
I honestly have a hard time processing how a car manufacturer can fit a wet battery under a seat, inside the cabin, with the spill hazard and gassing... I know they have vent tubes on them, but still...

There are three options for the JGC powertrain on a limited. A 3.6 V6 Gas, a 3.0 V6 Diesel and a 5.7 V8.

Only the 3.6L V6 has ESS. My 2017 had two batteries, one is under the hood (primary battery) and the ESS battery is under the driver seat in a well. It can't be accessed without removing the driver's seat and its a PITA to get out after that.

The ESS battery is an AGM like the one shown below. The information showing group 49 and saying its under the passenger seat are incorrect.

The primary battery is a group 94R, the information on the websites of Orileys and Autozone are incorrect.

Proof in point: Both Orileys and Autozone suggest the V8 JGC takes a group 94 and 49 battery, stating the group 49 is the ESS battery. No V8 JGC has ESS.

 

[Mark_]

There are three options for the JGC powertrain on a limited. A 3.6 V6 Gas, a 3.0 V6 Diesel and a 5.7 V8.

Only the 3.6L V6 has ESS. My 2017 had two batteries, one is under the hood (primary battery) and the ESS battery is under the driver seat in a well. It can't be accessed without removing the driver's seat and its a PITA to get out after that.

The ESS battery is an AGM like the one shown below. The information showing group 49 and saying its under the passenger seat are incorrect.

The primary battery is a group 94R, the information on the websites of Orileys and Autozone are incorrect.

Proof in point: Both Orileys and Autozone suggest the V8 JGC takes a group 94 and 49 battery, stating the group 49 is the ESS battery. No V8 JGC has ESS.




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Ok... well, it's even more confusing to me now. Other than the online fitment guides, this is what I saw that convinced me that ESS GCs (recent) have 2 AGMs under the passenger seat :

Now in the video, it's european OEM batteries with bizarre part numbers, similar to what we have in KLs, but they are AGMs and the big one is either 94R or 49. I don't understand how your 2017 3.6L Limited could be so radically different. It doesn't add up.

I get your point about the V8 fitment though.

Last point : on paper, and you correct me if I'm wrong, any ESS implememtation requires an AGM battery. So for me, not only should in-cabin batteries be AGM for safety reasons (spill and gassing potential), they should be AGM for ESS.

Underhood battery in a 2017 3.6L GC ??