It's a pretty high probability that they are indeed dual piston. Do you have the tow package on your Latitude???😎

 

I don't think it has a tow package

 

It's AWD, so pretty darn sure they are dual piston. HD or non HD, that is the question...

 

HD only applies to the rear brakes and has to do with the size of the brake rotor.

 

hI @jj03261989 ,

1. Go to this website and enter your VIN number: VIN decoder & lookup - Vindecoderz (note, I've found it only works on Chrome)
2. Scroll down to "Build Sheet". The 3 digit codes are Jeep's way of determining what components your Cherokee has. For brakes, BRG, means the dual-piston front brakes.
3. On my 2014 Trailhawk for example, I have brake code: "BRG: Anti-Lock 4-Wheel-Disc Brakes" The BRG code are the heavy duty 2 piston front brakes. I believe the other code, BRF, are the standard front brakes (1 piston). If your code has BRG, these brakes will work (2 piston front caliper).

 

hI @jj03261989 ,

1. Go to this website and enter your VIN number: VIN decoder & lookup - Vindecoderz (note, I've found it only works on Chrome)
2. Scroll down to "Build Sheet". The 3 digit codes are Jeep's way of determining what components your Cherokee has. For brakes, BRG, means the dual-piston front brakes.
3. On my 2014 Trailhawk for example, I have brake code: "BRG: Anti-Lock 4-Wheel-Disc Brakes" The BRG code are the heavy duty 2 piston front brakes. I believe the other code, BRF, are the standard front brakes (1 piston). If your code has BRG, these brakes will work (2 piston front caliper).

Just did some searching and something bugs me : I ran my VIN via your link (thanks, it shows more than the build sheet links I had), and for mine it says BRG too. No mention of HD brakes, and I have factory Tow Group (AD1 V6). It's strange because I went looking at brakes on the Autozone site, and they show 'Duralast' pads where they have fronts for BRF code, then some for BRG code while adding 'for non HD brakes' and lastly they show more, for HD brakes and no mention of BRG. Scrolling down further, they list some Brembo pads : some BRG and some for BRF with a mention 'Except Heavy Duty Brakes'. That tells me the Brembo pads for BRG are also a fit for HD front brakes, yet Duralast pads come in HD and non HD form, and they specify also that the HD pad kits come with pad spreader springs, while 'just BRG' do not.

I've seen similar offerings on Rock Auto. They sell kits from a bunch of manufacturers, and some differentiate between HD and non HD (BRG) pads while others don't.

So do I have HD brakes or not ? I think so, haha.. Since I didn't do my fronts the first time, I don't know if my original pads had the spreader spring on them, or not.

Edit to add (to the confusion) : not all HD compatible front pads come with spreader springs : some manufacturers have them, others don't...

 

It says brg anti-lock disc brakes does it say how many pistons I don't have any idea what I'm doing either so I don't help

 

No problem. The code itself, "BRG" means the dual piston front brakes. So go to the website in my post, punch in your VIN and scroll down to the "Build Sheet". If you see the code "BRG" you have the two-piston front brakes.

 

Ok it said BRG thank you

 

When I researched this years ago I found there are BRF, BRG and HD brakes.
BRG was for USA Cherokees with ABS. HD was for some export Cherokees. BRF was for something?
In the USA I could not buy HD brake parts, they were not available to USA customers.
The discussion of 1 or 2 pistons is irrelevant. You have what you have.
Buy parts base on your VIN and you will get the correct parts, whatever they are.

 

Just did some searching and something bugs me : I ran my VIN via your link (thanks, it shows more than the build sheet links I had), and for mine it says BRG too. No mention of HD brakes, and I have factory Tow Group (AD1 V6). It's strange because I went looking at brakes on the Autozone site, and they show 'Duralast' pads where they have fronts for BRF code, then some for BRG code while adding 'for non HD brakes' and lastly they show more, for HD brakes and no mention of BRG. Scrolling down further, they list some Brembo pads : some BRG and some for BRF with a mention 'Except Heavy Duty Brakes'. That tells me the Brembo pads for BRG are also a fit for HD front brakes, yet Duralast pads come in HD and non HD form, and they specify also that the HD pad kits come with pad spreader springs, while 'just BRG' do not.

I've seen similar offerings on Rock Auto. They sell kits from a bunch of manufacturers, and some differentiate between HD and non HD (BRG) pads while others don't.

So do I have HD brakes or not ? I think so, haha.. Since I didn't do my fronts the first time, I don't know if my original pads had the spreader spring on them, or not.

Edit to add (to the confusion) : not all HD compatible front pads come with spreader springs : some manufacturers have them, others don't...

Thanks guys. I last changed by brakes in August last year and have in my notes from other forum posts that BRF were 1 piston fronts. I can say for sure that BRG (which is on my TH) are definitely 2 piston. (it seems that 2 piston are also probably very common since anyone with 4WD or Tow Group seems to have gotten them).

I always assumed "HD brakes" were just marketing for 2 piston brakes and "Standard Brakes" were 1 piston. I'm not sure how AutoZone and other manufacturer's define or market them on their boxes. What would be real cool is some spec or engineering sheet from FCA showing dimensions! (which we're probably never see said unicorn sheet ) 🤣

 

I wanted to check mine since I'll be coming up on brake service soon. LOL, that site doesn't list any real build information for mine, and the info it does list is questionable. A 3.9L 125 HP engine???

 

I wanted to check mine since I'll be coming up on brake service soon. LOL, that site doesn't list any real build information for mine, and the info it does list is questionable. A 3.9L 125 HP engine???

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Yup, definitely no 3.9l engine available!!! LoL!

Can you please however post a screenshot of your SaleS Code section (see below). This is where they list the discrete components and their codes. In terms of this thread it's about the brake codes. (hence the "BRG" highlighted). Or are you saying there's no Sales Code section showing for your VIN?

 

Just look at the piston. if you see 2 round tops then they are duel

 

Initially I got my Build sheet from my Jeep sales person.
Get a free CarFax report, mine is huge.
Get a VIP report from a Service Advisor and check on Open Recalls and TSB's.
Then I get my free car wash and pig out on the snacks.
Bought my Jeep from them and spend lots of money on repairs.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Somebody said that.

 

Initially I got my Build sheet from my Jeep sales person.
Get a free CarFax report, mine is huge.
Get a VIP report from a Service Advisor and check on Open Recalls and TSB's.
Then I get my free car wash and pig out on the snacks.
Bought my Jeep from them and spend lots of money on repairs.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Somebody said that.

re: Then I get my free car wash and pig out on the snacks.

Love it!! Only problem is they don't sweat giving out $30 in snacks becuase they know we'll be back for a $3000 PTU or RDM 😲

 

I just went to that site and my VIN doesn't show the Build Sheet but it had a fair amount of other information. By selecting a model (any model), the most recently searched VINs are on the right. I picked a random VIN that ended up being a 2020 Ford Fusion and it had the Build Sheet. Then I picked another that was a 2023 Land Rover Range Rover and it had nada other than the VIN! So that site is really hit-and-miss.

There are other places to get your build sheet, but I haven't found any with the sales codes. Here is a site that will get you the sanitized version of the build sheet.

https://www.roughwheelers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/jeep-vin-buildsheet.html

Unfortunately, it doesn't give much info on brakes.

The only way I know to get that is through the dealer. Last time I checked they'll do it for free. ...but last time I checked was several years ago.

 

I just went to that site and my VIN doesn't show the Build Sheet but it had a fair amount of other information. By selecting a model (any model), the most recently searched VINs are on the right. I picked a random VIN that ended up being a 2020 Ford Fusion and it had the Build Sheet. Then I picked another that was a 2023 Land Rover Range Rover and it had nada other than the VIN! So that site is really hit-and-miss.

There are other places to get your build sheet, but I haven't found any with the sales codes. Here is a site that will get you the sanitized version of the build sheet.

https://www.roughwheelers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/jeep-vin-buildsheet.html

Unfortunately, it doesn't give much info on brakes.

The only way I know to get that is through the dealer. Last time I checked they'll do it for free. ...but last time I checked was several years ago.

Thanks @AZJeeper . Yes, I've found the same - lots of sites that list the component items but the VINDECODERZ.com was the only one that included the actual 3 digit code which is key. @Mark_ just reported it still works for him so maybe there's some secret-sauce to getting a free full build sheet. 😎

 

I don't get it neither

 

I went to RockAuto.com and looked up the calipers for a 2014 v6. There were no Mopar part numbers, but here are some clues.

P/N 1: Front; Brake Code BRG or BR6
P/N 2: Fits Front; Heavy Duty Brakes or Front; Standard Brakes; Brake Code BRG
P/N 3: Front; Standard Brakes; Brake Code BRF

The 2014 Cherokee Specifications sheet lists the following:

Mopar part numbers (not listed on RockAuto) are 68225168AD for the single piston right, and 68212010AA for dual piston right. Left are usually one digit difference. The
applicable vehicles for the single piston and duel piston look identical for the 2014 model, so little help there.

So deductive reasoning would be

• BRG = BR6.
• Standard Brakes = BRG or BRF.
• BRG can be Heavy Duty or Standard (depending on model one would think).
• As others had confirmed, Heavy Duty brakes are dual piston.
• Therefore BRG/BR6 are dual piston, Mopar P/N 68212010AA for the right side.
• BRF is single piston, Mopar P/N 68225168AD for the right side.
• If you have two humps on your caliper, you have the dual piston. There is only one P/N for the dual piston (per side).

Elementary, my dear Watson.

 

I went to RockAuto.com and looked up the calipers for a 2014 v6. There were no Mopar part numbers, but here are some clues.

P/N 1: Front; Brake Code BRG or BR6
P/N 2: Fits Front; Heavy Duty Brakes or Front; Standard Brakes; Brake Code BRG
P/N 3: Front; Standard Brakes; Brake Code BRF

The 2014 Cherokee Specifications sheet lists the following:

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Mopar part numbers (not listed on RockAuto) are 68225168AD for the single piston right, and 68212010AA for dual piston right. Left are usually one digit difference. The
applicable vehicles for the single piston and duel piston look identical for the 2014 model, so little help there.

So deductive reasoning would be

• BRG = BR6.
• Standard Brakes = BRG or BRF.
• BRG can be Heavy Duty or Standard (depending on model one would think).
• As others had confirmed, Heavy Duty brakes are dual piston.
• Therefore BRG/BR6 are dual piston, Mopar P/N 68212010AA for the right side.
• BRF is single piston, Mopar P/N 68225168AD for the right side.
• If you have two humps on your caliper, you have the dual piston. There is only one P/N for the dual piston (per side).

Elementary, my dear Watson.

I went back myself, decided to go rotors and pads for a 2015 V6. Except for 2 manufacturers, all are offering the same front rotors for BRG and HD brakes.
Pads : a few offer different front pads for BRG and HD, bur most sell the same pads for both, including Mopar. Power Stop also, they don't have a HD brakers option, just BRG.

But when you get into the Rock Auto 'Premium' section for front pads, that's where you see most offer pads for HD and non HD separately. You also see a bunch of front pad kits for HD brakes that come with the spreader clips...

A few manufacturers add a police pack option for front rotors and pads.

BR6 appears to be HD brakes, from the Mopar brake codes list. It's just not being used a lot I guess...

Edit for correction : I misread, BR6 is a 'high performance' brake option known as LX. On Rock Auto, I saw that mention and it was for a police pack.

 

About Belvidere : KL production started there in 2017. I think they had a very short run for 2018 MY because they had to retool for the 2019+, so they took a long break. But 2018 KLs came out of Belvidere..

 

I don't think their break was too long...maybe a month or so, give or take. If I remember, they started building the 2019 in or around late February/early March of 2018. My 2018 KL was built in mid-January 2018 and I'm assuming would have been toward the end of the production run for that MY.

 

You're right. I was expecting them to be on a longer break because of the refresh re-tool, but it seems it didn't take them long at all. 2018 MY production was really short because the Toledo > Belvidere move was mid-2017 (IIRC), but 2019 was a very long one. Must've been hectic and stressful at Belvidere for a while...

 

I thought the dual piston calipers were on all V6 engine trims. The standard brakes were on the 4 cylinder.
I just did my brakes and the Centric pads didn’t have the spreader wires either. They were pre-drilled so I was able to use the old wires. The Centrics didn’t come with caliper pin dust boots and sleeves either, but the local auto place had an axle set for under $10.

 

Not having caliper pin boots isn't all that unusual. They're usually sold separately or with new caliper pins since they're not part of a basic brake pad change (e.g. you've got seized pins and are replacing them etc.).

Unusual on the spreaders though. Having the holes in the pads means (to me) they should have come with new hardware...

 

On my 2015 TH has two.

 

FYI, over in the JeepGarage forum, one member noted that the dual piston front Cherokees had 320mm rear rotors and the single piston fronts had 278mm rotors in the rear. Not sure it covers every case but it seems logical.

 

Exactly. Starting from there, you have to navigate through brake parts from different manufacturers who may or may not offer hardware that is different for HD and non HD (front pads mostly), and a few for BR6 which is a police pack option.
Rear rotors are 320mm with BRG (non HD, HD) and BR6. Those all have dual piston fronts. Smaller rear rotors are with BRF, and that is for non Tow Group FWDs it seems, with single piston fronts.