Oh please let it be so!

 

They have to make a step forward, because Fiat is under pressure with the upcoming EURO 6 emission standard. The actual 2.0 Diesel doesn't meet this standard. The interesting point is, what will Fiat come out with. Will they switch over to Blue-Tech engines? The common understanding is, EURO 6 is not possible without urea injection. All 2016 cars must have EURO 6, so we should know more soon.

 

Wasn't there an article awhile back where an FCA higher up, maybe even Marchionne himself, said that if the Grand Cherokee diesels didn't start selling more here in the US they wouldn't even consider selling a diesel Cherokee here? Not sure what the means as far as this Turbo Diesel rumor is concerned.

 

Somehow people don't understand the benefits of diesel. Some must still think of the old stinky, smokey ones that you needed to wait for the plugs to warm up before you could drive it.

Here's the reason the diesel GC doesn't sell well... It's a $4500 OPTION! It'll take the average driver about 4 years to get that much in savings over the V6. Even the Hemi is $1300 less than the diesel.

 

We really DO want diesels, but they need to be affordable. I miss my '05 Liberty CRD, it had the 2.8L turbo diesel, and got 28mpg on the highway doing 75mph.

 

Interesting for Europe but amaricans like Diesel motors? Not talking about the hi price.
With these new motors can we expect a hi torque? Like actual Diesel version or that will decrease? What you think?

 

Unless you're towing regularly a Diesel in North America is getting more and more difficult to justify - and I am a huge Diesel fan. Here in AZ Diesel is about $1 more expensive than regular. I know all about the advantages of Diesel (my previous SUV was a Diesel) but this is getting ridiculous!

 

I LOVE the Grand Cherokee diesel. I really wanted to get one when I was shopping in the fall. But the price is too much. Plus you are limited to what packages you can get it with, or should I say trim levels. Just because someone wants a diesel engine does not mean they want almost every other available option as well.

My current driving pattern does not lend itself in a friendly way to a diesel. That is one of the major reasons I traded my Ram 2500 in on this Jeep. But if Mopar or what ever they are called does bring a diesel to the smaller vehicles, they need to package it in a way more people can afford it.

 

Having traded in my 2010 Jetta Sportswagen TDI that got 40+ mpg for my TH, I can say "shut up and take my money". I'd gladly pay $5k extra for a TH that got (hopefully) 10 or more mpg more, not to mention it would likely help off road. For me it's as much a matter of range & resource use as it is cost.

 

At the moment I´m not happy with the Diesel consumption. Jeep promised 39 mpg, best I got out was 33. Hope it will be more with a new tranny update. Someone must have loaded the software from V6 into my Diesel.

What I don´t understand is the $5k extra in US. Here in Germany, V6 and Diesel have exact same price.

 

Unfortunately, it's not 5 K extra for the Diesel here - it is 5 K extra for the V6 in Germany!:wink:

 

I guess it's "where they can get ya". Marchionne is not going to sell a ton of diesels without committing to do so the way VW has. TDI's are still a mark-up, but not $5k

 

Photos and Video of the new 2.2 L TD

This is from an Italian site - interesting. With this turbodiesel, the Cherokee does 0-60 in 8.5 s!

http://youtu.be/0yz4lmNdohA

 

The 2.2 Diesel can already be ordered in europe. It has 200hp, 8,5 sec 0-100 km/h and 440 torque Nm. Allegedly with AD1 (50 kg less than AD11) fuel use is 4,9 lit/100km driving on road and 5.3 mixed circuit. It meets mandatory euro-6 directive for next year. There is also a 185hp 2.2 liter diesel. I'm expecting my first jeep, a limited trim with this engine by the end of July (hopefully). The price of the vehicle is just around 800€ more than the 2.0 liter diesel. There is a thread in the forum with a link to full specifications of the engine and models.

 

http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/33-engi....com/33-engine-technical-discussion/124137-new-200-hp-diesel-engine-coming.html

 

http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/33-engi...gine-technical-discussion/131970-new-cherokee-2-2-l-diesel-technical-specs.html

 

It is 5,7 lit/100km combined circuit, not 5,3. My mistake.
Usually real fuel is above car maker measures no matter how standardized those measures are. anyway those are very good values for a 2- ton vehicle. Engineers of all brands keep producing better engines taht are both more powerfull and frugal. My ignorance is blatant regarding mechanicall stuff, but this always surprise me.

 

The Euro press is full of praise for this engine - acceleration and fuel consumption have improved dramatically and the noise is lower.

The old diesel had great consumption but was a bit sluggish (over 10 s to do 0-60). This one is a contender! I hope that the "brain trust":nerd: at Jeep decide to soon offer it in North America as well!