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Mines included as well. PTU gave up, car would roll in park, so had to engage parking brake. This was BEFORE the recall. Dealer told me to splurge $4400 for a new PTU (just out of warranty too). i hope this recall helps (finding PTU will take forever of course).
 
My '19 TH is part of it (not shocked it's an early 18 build as I bought it off the dealer (technically one of my dealer's sister lots) lot, early 18.
 
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I can only hope that they get on this quickly and we don't have to wait long after February 13 when FCA is supposed to report back on what the fix is. I can only hope that the solution is to replace all of the defective PTUs. I can only hope that FCA will order a batch of new PTUs from AAM as existing stock is almost non-existent.

I can only hope.
 
Sometimes I'm just a bit slow on the uptick, but I just realized that the 2nd recall 25E-003 applies to ADII PTUs that were replaced in 2014-2018 MYs with P/N 68307403AC, and 2019-2023 MYs with P/N 68333255AA!! Stay with me here...

This is from RMISC-25E003-0473 I posted in the "data dump" a bit ago in this thread:

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I wonder why it stopped with the 2019 MY? I wonder if any 2020-2023 ADII PTUs were replaced with this part number? If not, why not? Sure, the most recent P/N is 68333255AE, but if a dealer was waiting on a part for, say, a 2020 and 68333255AA were available, would they hesitate to install it?

So while the recall is for PTUs manufactured in a specific period, P/N 68307403AC could be in any 2014-2018 MY that had their PTU replaced, or P/N 68333255AA in any 2019-2023 MYs (maybe). They are, after all, a replacement part for a bad PTU in any of those model years. I wonder if they can track that part number by VIN considering it was a replacement and not off the production line? I wonder how many have been sold through online sites to independent mechanics? Also I wonder how many have been sold globally? I can only hope dealers and retailers keep good records. I wonder if the manufacture date is stamped on the PTU? Does anyone have a picture of a PTU that shows the P/N and date of manufacture?

If I had my PTU replaced in my 2014-2023 Cherokee anytime in the last 10+ years, you can bet I'd be crawling underneath the car to see if my replacement PTU is subject to the recall! I wouldn't depend on FCA to have that good of records, though they might.

I wonder.
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Sometimes I'm just a bit slow on the uptick, but I just realized that the 2nd recall 25E-003 applies to ADII PTUs that were replaced in 2014-2018 MYs with P/N 68307403AC, and 2019-2023 MYs with P/N 68333255AA!! Stay with me here...

This is from RMISC-25E003-0473 I posted in the "data dump" a bit ago in this thread:

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I wonder why it stopped with the 2019 MY? I wonder if any 2020-2023 ADII PTUs were replaced with this part number? If not, why not? Sure, the most recent P/N is 68333255AE, but if a dealer was waiting on a part for, say, a 2020 and 68333255AA were available, would they hesitate to install it?

So while the recall is for PTUs manufactured in a specific period, P/N 68307403AC could be in any 2014-2018 MY that had their PTU replaced, or P/N 68333255AA in any 2019-2023 MYs (maybe). They are, after all, a replacement part for a bad PTU in any of those model years. I wonder if they can track that part number by VIN considering it was a replacement and not off the production line? I wonder how many have been sold through online sites to independent mechanics? Also I wonder how many have been sold globally? I can only hope dealers and retailers keep good records. I wonder if the manufacture date is stamped on the PTU? Does anyone have a picture of a PTU that shows the P/N and date of manufacture?

If I had my PTU replaced in my 2014-2023 Cherokee anytime in the last 10+ years, you can bet I'd be crawling underneath the car to see if my replacement PTU is subject to the recall! I wouldn't depend on FCA to have that good of records, though they might.

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If anyone has AlfaOBD, you can get your PTU's part number from there. The date is the date of manufacture of the car (to the best of my knowledge, there's no external resource for the date of manufacture for individual parts - even in most cases on the part itself).
 
If anyone has AlfaOBD, you can get your PTU's part number from there. The date is the date of manufacture of the car (to the best of my knowledge, there's no external resource for the date of manufacture for individual parts - even in most cases on the part itself).
Unfortunately, that does not work for me. I can see a lot of PTU information including the embedded ECU P/N, but not the P/N of the PTU itself. Perhaps it's because I have the security gateway?

Plan B was to crawl under and take a peak. Can't see much with the skid plates being in the way.
 
Unfortunately, that does not work for me. I can see a lot of PTU information including the embedded ECU P/N, but not the P/N of the PTU itself. Perhaps it's because I have the security gateway?

Plan B was to crawl under and take a peak. Can't see much with the skid plates being in the way.
Last time I looked I saw no part numbers on bottom

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Unfortunately, that does not work for me. I can see a lot of PTU information including the embedded ECU P/N, but not the P/N of the PTU itself. Perhaps it's because I have the security gateway?

Plan B was to crawl under and take a peak. Can't see much with the skid plates being in the way.
Hey @AZJeeper ,

Good point. To be honest, I only assumed it worked on the PTU the same as the RDM but perhaps it's not the case, I've never really looked for a label on my PTU.

On my RDM, I have a physical label with the part number on the RDM housing (driver's side rear surface near where the axle goes in). And when I use AlfaOBD, the part number displayed matches. Of course, AlfaOBD can only read the actuator and has no way to read the RDM unit itself (the metal, gears etc.) so I assumed they 'match' an actuator and housing as an assembly when manufacturing them.

Regarding the PTU, I think your idea of needing to visually confirm if there's a label is probably the best one (though I assume it's probably difficult since as you mentioned, skid plates need to come of and then the label could be on an inaccessible surface unless it's removed)

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Hmm, this thread got me thinking and I recalled a few months ago, @Assi took out his PTU. I went to that thread and he posted the photo below. Unfortunately, the sticker (with the p/n) is on the upper-facing surface under the vent tube. If visible at all, it would probably be need to be read from the engine compartment using an endoscope (if it's not blocked by other things...)

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Hey @AZJeeper ,

Good point. To be honest, I only assumed it worked on the PTU the same as the RDM but perhaps it's not the case, I've never really looked for a label on my PTU.

On my RDM, I have a physical label with the part number on the RDM housing (driver's side rear surface near where the axle goes in). And when I use AlfaOBD, the part number displayed matches. Of course, AlfaOBD can only read the actuator and has no way to read the RDM unit itself (the metal, gears etc.) so I assumed they 'match' an actuator and housing as an assembly when manufacturing them.
Well that's wonky as heck! I did verify that the RDM "ECU Part Number" is the same as the RDM part number. I can see the "ECU Part Number" for the PTU, but it points to 68307405AA. As far as I can tell, that's for the PTU control module itself. I tried looking that number up but I get zero hits. Typical FCA (in)consistency. :rolleyes:

No matter. I'm on the recall hit list anyway. Just thought I'd try to help out those that had their PTU replaced with a potentially recalled one.
 
My first thought as well. People can't get the damn things now, so this is really gonna help matters. :rolleyes:



I guess people like me with Cherokees built in 2018 will find out on February 13. I'm surprised they didn't wait until the 14th so the letters could say, "Happy Valentines Day! You need a new PTU, but don't expect to get it until Hell freezes over! Hope your loved one has another vehicle you can use in the meantime."
The situation isn’t at all funny, but your comment is hilarious!
 
My 2014 had the spline failure, the manufacturer date was one month before the recall date. I filed a complaint with the NHTSB with no help. Anyway hear are my numbers
Original PTU 68307403AF
New PTU 68307403AG
Bought new on 1/5/23 from a dealer that had one and was willing to sell it, I installed it myself.
 
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