Don’t hold your breath, but there may be a a new recall. I don’t keep up on this stuff so read for yourself.
Fj4080
2017-2019 new PTU recall?
Well, that's interesting. I'm curious about why it's just certain 2017-2019's??? ADI or ADII??? I mean, I don't think there's any obvious differences in those "said components" from 2014 to the end of production, unless they're going to blame some sort of small parts differences, or some other lame excuse, with their infamous "software update" solution, or something. Should be interesting to watch this play out...😳🤔😉😁
Yeah, great....another reason PTUs will be hard to get and you'll have to sit on a backorder list...hope my wife's 2017 isn't on the list.
So now it’s a poorly seated input shaft ring instead of the splines failing , but causing the same results, (loss of forward motion and the parking pawl will do nothing since the shaft is not locked into place with the transmission) So it will be interesting to see if it is still only AD2s or now is AD1s as @Flybynightcru said.
From the NHTSA recall notice:
Some 2017-2019 MY Jeep Cherokee vehicles may have been built with an improperly
seated input shaft snap ring in the two-speed Power Transfer Unit ("PTU").
The suspect period began on October 11, 2016, when PTUs with improperly seated
snap rings started to be used in vehicle production, through February 20, 2019, when
PTUs with properly seated snap rings started to be used in vehicle production. The
vehicle population was determined by supplier and vehicle assembly traceability
records.
Similar vehicles not included in this recall do not have a PTU, were built with a PTU of
a different design, or were built with properly seated snap rings.
The recall number is 25V-011.
Some 2017-2019 MY Jeep Cherokee vehicles may have been built with an improperly
seated input shaft snap ring in the two-speed Power Transfer Unit ("PTU").
The suspect period began on October 11, 2016, when PTUs with improperly seated
snap rings started to be used in vehicle production, through February 20, 2019, when
PTUs with properly seated snap rings started to be used in vehicle production. The
vehicle population was determined by supplier and vehicle assembly traceability
records.
Similar vehicles not included in this recall do not have a PTU, were built with a PTU of
a different design, or were built with properly seated snap rings.
The recall number is 25V-011.
So, it's the same BS, but just different wording?.? So, are they going to pull every imput shaft, and check the snap rings, or are they going do a software update, and call it fixed???🤔😁😉
My first thought as well. People can't get the damn things now, so this is really gonna help matters.
I guess people like me with Cherokees built in 2018 will find out on February 13. I'm surprised they didn't wait until the 14th so the letters could say, "Happy Valentines Day! You need a new PTU, but don't expect to get it until Hell freezes over! Hope your loved one has another vehicle you can use in the meantime."
So.. this recall is for approx 10% of the units sold from 2017-2019. Is that AD1, AD2, both? I’m pretty sure AD1 PTUs are available. They were last visit to the dealer a few months ago.
I’m waiting to see if they will also ever investigate the Missing and Broken PTU bolts too. This has been happening frequently now, and I want my money back for the repair if they ever actually recognize that issue .
Jeeps number for this new recall will be 01C.
It’s probably putting more pressure on Stellantis with Transport Canada also being involved. 2 safety agencies is a louder squeaky wheel.
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Jeeps number for this new recall will be 01C.
It’s probably putting more pressure on Stellantis with Transport Canada also being involved. 2 safety agencies is a louder squeaky wheel.
This gets even better! There are TWO recalls in the works. 25V-011 which affects 63,082 vehicles, and 25E-003 which affects another 6,979 more!
Ah, crap! 💩 I thought my 2019 would avoid the PTU fiasco. Perhaps not.
Ah, crap! 💩 I thought my 2019 would avoid the PTU fiasco. Perhaps not.
My 2019 is listed as part of this recall:
www.nhtsa.gov
Recalls | NHTSA
Use our VIN lookup tool to check for recalls on your car, or search by make and model. Also, get recall information on car seats, tires and equipment.
Once you get your official recall notice in the mail, I would reach out to Jeep to get a reimbursement for the PTU you got installed. Most car companies work that way, but I'm not guaranteeing anything. I guess it all depends on the type of fix they come up with for the recalls.
I wish we could all show up together, at the same dealer, at the same time, just to eff with their heads...With this woman...LOL!!!😁😉😎
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I don't think this one can be handled with a software fix. Here is the letter from FCA to NHTSA:
And here is the recall notice:
Some important statements:
The suspect period began on October 11, 2016, when PTUs with improperly seated snap rings started to be used in vehicle production, through February 20, 2019, when PTUs with properly seated snap rings started to be used in vehicle production
and
Uncontrolled movement leads to the potential for wear to the range shift sleeve, spline damage, and / or range fork damage which can cause an unexpected loss of motive power or loss of PARK function while stationary. Customers may notice a Service 4WD message, noise, vibration or change in drive quality.
A software fix, like the previous PTU recall, just addressed the issue about what happens when the spline shears. It makes it "safe", not "better".
This is an improper snap ring that is causing wear to the point of breakage. So I would expect FCA to deal with the wear issue as well, as worn components are probably subject to eventual failure too.
This is all speculation, of course. I suppose the good news is FCA understands the failure issue. Now they are scrambling to figure out an affordable fix.
And here is the recall notice:
Some important statements:
The suspect period began on October 11, 2016, when PTUs with improperly seated snap rings started to be used in vehicle production, through February 20, 2019, when PTUs with properly seated snap rings started to be used in vehicle production
and
Uncontrolled movement leads to the potential for wear to the range shift sleeve, spline damage, and / or range fork damage which can cause an unexpected loss of motive power or loss of PARK function while stationary. Customers may notice a Service 4WD message, noise, vibration or change in drive quality.
A software fix, like the previous PTU recall, just addressed the issue about what happens when the spline shears. It makes it "safe", not "better".
This is an improper snap ring that is causing wear to the point of breakage. So I would expect FCA to deal with the wear issue as well, as worn components are probably subject to eventual failure too.
This is all speculation, of course. I suppose the good news is FCA understands the failure issue. Now they are scrambling to figure out an affordable fix.
Continuing with the data dump, here is the other recall (yes, there are two).
Safety Recall Report 25E-003.
The Chronology Report. Looks to be exactly the same as the one for 25V-001, except it's formatted better:
This one explains in a convoluted way why there are two recalls. This recall is by specific part numbers that "COULD be used/installed as aftermarket or service parts." In other words, if you had your failed PTU replaced in the past with one of the affected part numbers, you are also subject to a recall!
"Stop Sale" Notice to dealers for the affected part numbers:
So the total population is 63,082 vehicles directly affected, and another 6,979 more for all those poor saps who had their PTU replaced with a potentially defective one. That's 70,061 ADII PTUs out there that may kill you!
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Safety Recall Report 25E-003.
The Chronology Report. Looks to be exactly the same as the one for 25V-001, except it's formatted better:
This one explains in a convoluted way why there are two recalls. This recall is by specific part numbers that "COULD be used/installed as aftermarket or service parts." In other words, if you had your failed PTU replaced in the past with one of the affected part numbers, you are also subject to a recall!
"Stop Sale" Notice to dealers for the affected part numbers:
So the total population is 63,082 vehicles directly affected, and another 6,979 more for all those poor saps who had their PTU replaced with a potentially defective one. That's 70,061 ADII PTUs out there that may kill you!
My '19 TH is part of it (not shocked it's an early 18 build as I bought it off the dealer (technically one of my dealer's sister lots) lot, early 18.
I can only hope that they get on this quickly and we don't have to wait long after February 13 when FCA is supposed to report back on what the fix is. I can only hope that the solution is to replace all of the defective PTUs. I can only hope that FCA will order a batch of new PTUs from AAM as existing stock is almost non-existent.
I can only hope.
I can only hope.
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