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I'm a Jeep rookie, but I'm getting ready to put towing base plate on my new 22 TH. To do this I have to remove 2 structural parts of the bumper (horns?) that the base plates take the place of (the red hooks actuall have a long bolt that passes thru those horns. Not sure, but it looks to me that these parts were not replace when the towing base plates were removed, which would seem to weaken the bumper in any front end impact.
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it was the first time ever got to see inside one
 

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I see a couple 2.0T Trailhawks listed here??? Trailhawks only come in 3.2 V6's, interesting to me?

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Our 2018 Overland was a toad before we bought it in 2019 to be a toad. It had 20K on the odo when we bought it, unknown flat towing mileage. It had baseplates and tail light harness already installed, which was good for us. We've since put almost 50K driving on it, plus close to 20K flat towing, and it's been fine.

I do feel like the front tires scrub a little when flat towing. I doubt they wear more than driving the equivalent mileage. The Wildpeaks on the Jeep now have around 30K miles driven and around 12-15K miles flat towing and they're still well above the wear bars.
 

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Our 2018 Overland was a toad before we bought it in 2019 to be a toad. It had 20K on the odo when we bought it, unknown flat towing mileage. It had baseplates and tail light harness already installed, which was good for us. We've since put almost 50K driving on it, plus close to 20K flat towing, and it's been fine.

I do feel like the front tires scrub a little when flat towing. I doubt they wear more than driving the equivalent mileage. The Wildpeaks on the Jeep now have around 30K miles driven and around 12-15K miles flat towing and they're still well above the wear bars.
maybe they never rotated the tires & we have no idea how many miles it was towed. could have been 100k miles for all we know. never rotated them, then when they sold it, put them on the back
 

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I'm out Route 20/117 near Stow/Sudbury
you are welcome to come check it out & see if it suits you
we can maybe meet in Waltham at one of those corporate office parks. I used to work on Totten Pond Road. you can drive it around the office park or even Route 128/95 which is right there
sometime next week would be OK, I guess PM me through this site?
if not, no worries
right now it needs a right rear suspension knuckle which might cost $2,500
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I'm a Jeep rookie, but I'm getting ready to put towing base plate on my new 22 TH. To do this I have to remove 2 structural parts of the bumper (horns?) that the base plates take the place of (the red hooks actuall have a long bolt that passes thru those horns. Not sure, but it looks to me that these parts were not replace when the towing base plates were removed, which would seem to weaken the bumper in any front end impact.
The two pieces you remove are just crush zones in a crash. They aren't structural. They bolt in front of the frame plate. Your base plates won't crush. It will be stronger afterwards.
 

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The two pieces you remove are just crush zones in a crash. They aren't structural. They bolt in front of the frame plate. Your base plates won't crush. It will be stronger afterwards.
In the photos it appears the base plates were removed - leaving nothing there.
 

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I actually had to go look up "TOAD", I am not an off roader or an RV person. LOL My question is, why would you not get a trailer to haul your Jeep? Is it being towed with an RV a bad thing?
I've done both. They both have advantages and disadvantages. A short (but incomplete) list...

Trailering advantages:
  • No wear and tear on the trailered vehicle.
  • Can get a broken Jeep back home.
  • Can haul a lot of extra tools, tires, and repair parts on the trailer.
  • No special equipment needed for trailered vehicle.
Trailering disadvantages:
  • Adds another 1500-2500 lbs (or more if really decked out) to the total being towed. RV MPG sufferers.
  • The trailer can add to RV "proposing" where the feedback from going over a bump amplifies through the tongue.
  • When you get to your destination you need to find an RV park that is either big enough to include the trailer and dismounted vehicle, or a separate place to store the trailer. There aren't many options.
  • Need to securely attach a vehicle to the trailer. Cinching down on tow hooks or other suspended components means there will be slack in the tie-downs when you go over a bump. Securing directly to the axles works well, but is hard to do with a vehicle like the KL.
  • Takes a while to hook everything up and secure the vehicle on the trailer.
  • The trailer is typically longer than the mounted vehicle, so expect to take wide turns.
Toading advantages:
  • Better MPG since only the weight of the toad.
  • Little to no feedback from toad to RV.
  • Many more campsite options for RV + toad to fit in.
  • Quick and easy hookup and takedown. Can be ready in a few minutes.
  • Toad tracks closely behind RV. I pretty much forget the toad is back there.
Toading disadvantages:
  • Wear and tear on drivetrain from the PTU or transfer case on down. No wear and tear on engine or transmission though.
  • If you break you toad, you need to get it fixed at least good enough to tow it.
  • Need to store extra tools and repair parts in toad or RV.
  • Need special equipment and wiring. Baseplates, safety hooks, battery charge line, breakaway switch and wiring, and brake/turn lights.
When I first started towing I was all about trailering. I was pretty hard on my Wranglers and often welcomed the option of fixing stuff when I got back home. Now I'm older (but not necessarily wiser) and don't beat on my towed equipment as much. I still tow my JK to far-off wonderlands, but mostly I stick to the KL.
 

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I've done both. They both have advantages and disadvantages. A short (but incomplete) list...

Trailering advantages:
  • No wear and tear on the trailered vehicle.
  • Can get a broken Jeep back home.
  • Can haul a lot of extra tools, tires, and repair parts on the trailer.
  • No special equipment needed for trailered vehicle.
Trailering disadvantages:
  • Adds another 1500-2500 lbs (or more if really decked out) to the total being towed. RV MPG sufferers.
  • The trailer can add to RV "proposing" where the feedback from going over a bump amplifies through the tongue.
  • When you get to your destination you need to find an RV park that is either big enough to include the trailer and dismounted vehicle, or a separate place to store the trailer. There aren't many options.
  • Need to securely attach a vehicle to the trailer. Cinching down on tow hooks or other suspended components means there will be slack in the tie-downs when you go over a bump. Securing directly to the axles works well, but is hard to do with a vehicle like the KL.
  • Takes a while to hook everything up and secure the vehicle on the trailer.
  • The trailer is typically longer than the mounted vehicle, so expect to take wide turns.
Toading advantages:
  • Better MPG since only the weight of the toad.
  • Little to no feedback from toad to RV.
  • Many more campsite options for RV + toad to fit in.
  • Quick and easy hookup and takedown. Can be ready in a few minutes.
  • Toad tracks closely behind RV. I pretty much forget the toad is back there.
Toading disadvantages:
  • Wear and tear on drivetrain from the PTU or transfer case on down. No wear and tear on engine or transmission though.
  • If you break you toad, you need to get it fixed at least good enough to tow it.
  • Need to store extra tools and repair parts in toad or RV.
  • Need special equipment and wiring. Baseplates, safety hooks, battery charge line, breakaway switch and wiring, and brake/turn lights.
When I first started towing I was all about trailering. I was pretty hard on my Wranglers and often welcomed the option of fixing stuff when I got back home. Now I'm older (but not necessarily wiser) and don't beat on my towed equipment as much. I still tow my JK to far-off wonderlands, but mostly I stick to the KL.
thank you.
 

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looking at this one today
the front tow hooks are missing so I'm guessing it was towed behind an RV
anything special I should be looking at with a vehicle like this?
took a sneak peak in person in the rain this morning
rear tires are gone but the fronts are good. I would put a set of highway tires on it, for my purposes (don't really need a Trailhawk but it has everything else I do want)
I'm guessing the listed mileage includes all miles it was towed
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this is inside the passenger side tow hook hole
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from the dealer's ad
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I owned a 2016 Trailhawk 4X and pulled behind, no problems but mileage rolled up in towing. Also, now have Grand Cherokee 4X….behind my RV……beware of the Jeep Wobble”
 
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