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whats included in Payload?

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On another RV group there are lots of "what can I tow with this truck" posts and it always gets to a payload question. Some half ton trucks with 8,500lb + tow ratings have only a 1,450lb payload.

Whats included or really excluded from the available payload?

Ok for my Jeep my payload is 1,000lb (50lbs less for TH) does this exclude a tank of gas and some say a 150 lb driver. Some also say it excludes another 150 lb passenger.

Most then say check your manual. I did and see no driver exclusion but maybe a fuel exclusion.

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
The GVWR is the total permissible weight of your vehicle
including driver, passengers, vehicle, options and cargo.
The label also specifies maximum capacities of front and
rear axle systems (GAWR). Total load must be limited so
GVWR and front and rear GAWR are not exceeded.

Payload
The payload of a vehicle is defined as the allowable load
weight a truck can carry, including the weight of the
driver, all passengers, options and cargo.
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Didn't you get answers for this already here ? : http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/337-towing-towed/219361-jeep-cherokee-towing-3500lbs-7.html#post2788681

Or am I missing something...?
Yea I guess I did so I'm changing my question has anyone seen payload specs for any vehicle where a 150 lb driver is excluded and maybe another 150 lb passenger.

I guess I was assuming that payload calculations had some sort DOT regulations.
Thanks for that - I googled every darn combination of truck, scale, weigh, station, house I could think of but couldn't find anything. Knew there had to be something up here!
To weigh your tongue this this.

https://www.etrailer.com/faq-how-to-determine-trailer-tongue-weight.aspx
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