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I'm grabbing a set of these myself next week 245/70/17 A/T3W. I had them on a previous Cherokee, great tires!
If you like those Falkens, you'd really like the Toyo A/T III's that I've been running on mine...😎
Curious how these Flakens or your Toyo A/T III’s (seen you advocate for those Toyo’s in other threads to, so very curious about them) are for daily road driving compared to stock Destinations?
I find the stock Destinations ride nicely on the road for daily driving. Comfort with light utility was my primary reason for switching to our Cherokee TH - so normal driving comfort is my primary concern (bad back and neck).
I wont ever do any driving on rocky surfaces/trails. Might eventually get out on dirt trails, fire trails in state parks, etc in Michigan…but nothing like mountain or out west off-roaring. So having a good and comfortable daily driving tire outside of winter that can still hit basic trails, seasonal roads, fire roads in state parks, etc is what will be most ideal for us.
Next year in the winter I plan to get a set of true winter tires (Michelin X-ICE). However, when my Destinations eventually need replacement (still great at 37k miles), or if I decide to switch to something better earlier, I am curious as to what options to consider for my needs. Thanks to any that reply.
I find the stock Destinations ride nicely on the road for daily driving. Comfort with light utility was my primary reason for switching to our Cherokee TH - so normal driving comfort is my primary concern (bad back and neck).
I wont ever do any driving on rocky surfaces/trails. Might eventually get out on dirt trails, fire trails in state parks, etc in Michigan…but nothing like mountain or out west off-roaring. So having a good and comfortable daily driving tire outside of winter that can still hit basic trails, seasonal roads, fire roads in state parks, etc is what will be most ideal for us.
Next year in the winter I plan to get a set of true winter tires (Michelin X-ICE). However, when my Destinations eventually need replacement (still great at 37k miles), or if I decide to switch to something better earlier, I am curious as to what options to consider for my needs. Thanks to any that reply.
I would recommend for you being in Michigan, and your all around daily driving conditions and preferences, I would recommend something like the Yokohama GO15. It's an excellent "street friendly" A/T that's far superior to the Destination A/T's that you're driving on now. They're a perfect choice for your 3 season set, though they are still very capable in full winter conditions, and are 3PMSF rated for winter driving. I have run several sets of them on different vehicles and would running them now on my Trailhawk, but I wanted something a little more aggressive. They're a great mid level all terrain, with a great balance between on road performance and capabilities...😎Curious how these Flakens or your Toyo A/T III’s (seen you advocate for those Toyo’s in other threads to, so very curious about them) are for daily road driving compared to stock Destinations?
I find the stock Destinations ride nicely on the road for daily driving. Comfort with light utility was my primary reason for switching to our Cherokee TH - so normal driving comfort is my primary concern (bad back and neck).
I wont ever do any driving on rocky surfaces/trails. Might eventually get out on dirt trails, fire trails in state parks, etc in Michigan…but nothing like mountain or out west off-roaring. So having a good and comfortable daily driving tire outside of winter that can still hit basic trails, seasonal roads, fire roads in state parks, etc is what will be most ideal for us.
Next year in the winter I plan to get a set of true winter tires (Michelin X-ICE). However, when my Destinations eventually need replacement (still great at 37k miles), or if I decide to switch to something better earlier, I am curious as to what options to consider for my needs. Thanks to any that reply.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/yokohama-geolandar-a-t-g015
Excellent. REALLY appreciate your knowledge in this forum and this suggestion. Saving that link now!I would recommend for you being in Michigan, and your all around daily driving conditions and preferences, I would recommend something like the Yokohama GO15. It's an excellent "street friendly" A/T that's far superior to the Destination A/T's that you're driving on now. They're a perfect choice for your 3 season set, though they are still very capable in full winter conditions, and are 3PMSF rated for winter driving. I have run several sets of them on different vehicles and would running them now on my Trailhawk, but I wanted something a little more aggressive. They're a great mid level all terrain, with a great balance between on road performance and capabilities...😎
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/yokohama-geolandar-a-t-g015
Just for a comparison, here's the Toyo‘s, which as far as street manners, I don't put them far behind the Geolanders, but the capability is next level under all conditions. The "more aggressive" A/T tires have improved dramatically in just the last few years with their balance of excellent offroad capabilities and street manners. If you did want to go a little more aggressive, then the Toyo‘s and the Falkens are both very good choices, and they sure look cooler on your Trailhawk. I couldn't be happier with the Toyo‘s, and after this winter, they have proven themselves to be the best A/T in all conditions and surfaces that I've ever run...😉😎Excellent. REALLY appreciate your knowledge in this forum and this suggestion. Saving that link now!
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/toyo-open-country-a-t-iii
Here's the Wildpeaks as well...😎
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w
Okay…back on the list now. Ha! This is all great food for thought. Particularly winter manners and road manners. Thanks!Just for a comparison, here's the Toyo‘s, which as far as street manners, I don't put them far behind the Geolanders, but the capability is next level under all conditions. The "more aggressive" A/T tires have improved dramatically in just the last few years with their balance of excellent offroad capabilities and street manners. If you did want to go a little more aggressive, then the Toyo‘s and the Falkens are both very good choices, and they sure look cooler on your Trailhawk. I couldn't be happier with the Toyo‘s, and after this winter, they have proven themselves to be the best A/T in all conditions and surfaces that I've ever run...😉😎
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/toyo-open-country-a-t-iii
Here's the Wildpeaks as well...😎
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/falken-wildpeak-a-t3w
The toyos arent bad onroad but being a non-5 rib design they do take abit of steering but less than I was expecting.
I quite liked mine.
I quite liked mine.
The Wildpeaks are great in the snow and quiet on the road, and wear pretty well. Currently at 30K miles driven and 15K dragged behind the RV with a decent amount of tread left. And last winter they handled snow pretty well.I wont ever do any driving on rocky surfaces/trails. Might eventually get out on dirt trails, fire trails in state parks, etc in Michigan…but nothing like mountain or out west off-roaring. So having a good and comfortable daily driving tire outside of winter that can still hit basic trails, seasonal roads, fire roads in state parks, etc is what will be most ideal for us.
Next year in the winter I plan to get a set of true winter tires (Michelin X-ICE). However, when my Destinations eventually need replacement (still great at 37k miles), or if I decide to switch to something better earlier, I am curious as to what options to consider for my needs. Thanks to any that reply.
I’ve been daily driving these tires everyday now since I’ve posted that and I can say, there is absolutely no road noise from these, they feel smooth and they’re great, commuting on the interstate for work and seeing how well they handled really sold it for me and I can say I’ll most likely be sticking with these in the futureCurious how these Flakens or your Toyo A/T III’s (seen you advocate for those Toyo’s in other threads to, so very curious about them) are for daily road driving compared to stock Destinations?
I find the stock Destinations ride nicely on the road for daily driving. Comfort with light utility was my primary reason for switching to our Cherokee TH - so normal driving comfort is my primary concern (bad back and neck).
I wont ever do any driving on rocky surfaces/trails. Might eventually get out on dirt trails, fire trails in state parks, etc in Michigan…but nothing like mountain or out west off-roaring. So having a good and comfortable daily driving tire outside of winter that can still hit basic trails, seasonal roads, fire roads in state parks, etc is what will be most ideal for us.
Next year in the winter I plan to get a set of true winter tires (Michelin X-ICE). However, when my Destinations eventually need replacement (still great at 37k miles), or if I decide to switch to something better earlier, I am curious as to what options to consider for my needs. Thanks to any that reply.
Which ones are you running???😎I’ve been daily driving these tires everyday now since I’ve posted that and I can say, there is absolutely no road noise from these, they feel smooth and they’re great, commuting on the interstate for work and seeing how well they handled really sold it for me and I can say I’ll most likely be sticking with these in the future
The falkens 😎Which ones are you running???😎
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like a very good ride and tire. Any winter driving time on them? If yes, how well are they in that say compared to a normal all season vs winter tire?…there is absolutely no road noise from these, they feel smooth and they’re great, commuting on the interstate for work and seeing how well they handled really sold it for me…
Appreciate the winter conditions feedback…AND great snow pics! Thank you. How were they for stopping in the snow? Also, any time on icy, slushy or glazed over road conditions with them? If so, how’d they handle and how good at stopping where they?The Wildpeaks are great in the snow and quiet on the road, and wear pretty well. Currently at 30K miles driven and 15K dragged behind the RV with a decent amount of tread left. And last winter they handled snow pretty well.
We get a lot of slick road and snowy road winter conditions and I have a go to winter tire I will get next year for that UNLESS some of these all season A/T type tires handle the stopping well in those winter conditions. My first concern for non-winter tire is ride and comfort without excessive A/T tire road noise. Then as a bonus, can it cover winter duty, or would I still need to get my go-to winter tire, the Michelin X-ICE’s.
Both the Toyo‘s and the Falkens are very confident in winter driving conditions. Though I don't have personal experience with the Falkens, from others experience, and what I've read in the tests and reviews they are comparable to the Toyo’s, but with a slight edge on traction and stopping to the Toyo’s. As far as A/T road noise, they're both substantially quiet, with the Falken slightly quieter, if you can even notice the difference. Of course, nothing can beat a dedicated winter on icy conditions, but both are very good all around in winter driving conditions, and both have excellent road handling and manners. I've definitely tested out the Toyo’s this winter out here in Utah, and they simply amazed me. They earned my confidence to take them literally anywhere, in any conditions. I mean I cruised effortlessly through about 28 inches of fresh, unplowed road snow, when I just knew from decades of experience would probably not turn out well, but it did...LOL!!!😉😎
On ice or icy/frozen slush I'd imagine you'd really need studded tires. The Falkens were great in fresh snow and heavily driven clumpy wet snow, and decent in slush. A couple times it was noticeably slippery stopping in slush, but those spots may have had ice underneath.
I'd say they're good enough that you can run them into winter and test them out. While they're most likely not as good in the more challenging winter conditions as the X-Ice, they may be good enough, definitely better than regular all-seasons.
edit: the biggest problem I had from driving around in that snow was that it packed up inside the wheels and froze on the brakes while we were parked. It broke free with a clunk when I pulled away, but then I had to stop and get enough snow out of the wheels to make sure ice didn't grab the brake lines.
I'd say they're good enough that you can run them into winter and test them out. While they're most likely not as good in the more challenging winter conditions as the X-Ice, they may be good enough, definitely better than regular all-seasons.
edit: the biggest problem I had from driving around in that snow was that it packed up inside the wheels and froze on the brakes while we were parked. It broke free with a clunk when I pulled away, but then I had to stop and get enough snow out of the wheels to make sure ice didn't grab the brake lines.
I’m glad some other people were able to answer the question in regards to winter driving, being in South Carolina we don’t get much of a winter here 😂
Crazy.. 20 years ago this same conversation would be about the BFG A/T.
My son went with the BFG this last time because they were a bit cheaper
than the Wildpeaks. Never thought I'd see that day.
They look and ride really nice. Still would like to find out which struts lift
the front end by what looks like 2"s on his 2018 TH......
My son went with the BFG this last time because they were a bit cheaper
than the Wildpeaks. Never thought I'd see that day.
They look and ride really nice. Still would like to find out which struts lift
the front end by what looks like 2"s on his 2018 TH......
Just changed from ATW3's to A/T Trails, wow, they are quieter but, still look pretty hefty.
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