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http://www.freep.com/article/20130825/COL14/308250035/Mark-Phelan-purists

Mark Phelan: 'Vette, Mustang, Cherokee fans, stop complaining already

As new versions of the Chevrolet Corvette, Ford Mustang and Jeep Cherokee draw near, I’ve got a request for the vehicles’ purists: Stop complaining that they’re different from the old cars you revere. Close your eyes, count to 10 and get back to me after they’ve been on the road for six months.

Your whining makes my head hurt, and it’s not helping the cars you claim to love. Honestly.

“If you’re passionate about a car, you tend to see anything that’s different as a retrograde step,” said Jim Hall, managing director of 2953 Analytics. “Owners of the previous model will always prefer the one they know.”

That explains why many ’Vette fans recoiled in horror when they saw the 2014 Corvette Stingray has — wait for it — square taillights! Never mind that the new ’Vette is faster, more fuel-efficient and more advanced — their Corvette has round taillights, the way God intended. Anything else is an abomination.

The same goes for the 2014 Jeep Cherokee. The mechanical specs suggest it could drive up the side of a building, using about half as much fuel as the old one and keeping its passengers safe when it fell off the other side of the building. All some fans can see is that it’s sleek while the old one was boxy, though. They think that makes it a traitor to the brand.

I have no idea what the all-new 2015 Mustang will look like, but I am certain lots of people will despise it. The fact that it’ll probably be lighter, nimbler and more technically sophisticated and fuel-efficient than any Mustang before it is irrelevant. It’ll be different. That guarantees some folks will hate it.

People can’t tell you they want something they’ve never seen before.
It’s a truism designers bemoan as they drink alone, late at night in fabulous bars decorated in white leather, chrome and black wood.

But nobody knew the world wanted 250 different paintings of water lilies until Claude Monet did it and changed art forever. That’s why artists drink alone, late at night, in far cheaper and less fashionable dives.

Cars, like art, must evolve or die. The alternative is the Model T. The world’s best-selling car, Ford barely changed it from 1908 to 1927. Other vehicles evolved and surpassed it. Ford lost the No. 1 spot and never regained it.

Porsche is the other side of that coin, Edmunds.com senior analyst Michelle Krebs said. “The purists loudly objected to the idea of Porsche building an SUV and a sedan, but Porsche wouldn’t be around today if it hadn’t built the Cayenne,” the SUV that’s its top seller, she said. The combination of the Cayenne and Panamera sedan — another departure that was anathema to brand purists — led Porsche to record sales.

The idea that people can’t ask for what they can’t imagine collides with the salesman’s maxim of “Give the customer what he wants” at the intersection of art and commerce.

“The most important thing is to create a car that people see and immediately recognize as the new Corvette or Mustang or Jeep,” Hall said.

That requires an understanding of the vehicle’s core appeal and identity. Too often, the self-appointed guardians of brand heritage obsess over minutiae like round versus square taillights.

I’m looking at you, Corvette purists.

It’s the automotive equivalent of medieval theological debates about how many angels could fit on the head of a pin. The correct answer, then and now, is: Drop dead, I have a life.

The new models may be great. They may stink. We’ll know soon enough. I’ll guarantee one thing, though. The deciding factor won’t be the shape of a taillight lens.
 

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Read this on another site.
I think he is right. Original Cherokee was fine. Move on-- You can't build em like that anymore and that's a good thing... they are over romanticized anyway.

Everything Jeep has built, that is not a direct lineage to WWII (e.g. Willys, CJs, Wranglers), is "Out of the Box" styling! They have always manipulated the "7 slot grill" around something than doesn't look like a WWII world beater.

Geez you'd think the 2014 Cherokee came from you-know-who with the horns.
 

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People are so resistant to change. Change is good. People should stop trying to hold on to past vehicles by imposing them on new models.

Take the new cars for what they are. If you want a classic Cherokee or Mustang then go out and get one. Leave more of the new cars for the rest of us.
 

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People are so resistant to change. Change is good. People should stop trying to hold on to past vehicles by imposing them on new models.

Take the new cars for what they are. If you want a classic Cherokee or Mustang then go out and get one. Leave more of the new cars for the rest of us.
Also people don't know what they want, no matter what people will always complain about something, the same people complaining will learn to love the new Cherokee and other new Jeeps.
 

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It's a trap. Once you buy one. You will spend more making it the way you want that it'll surpass the price of the car.
Been there and done that... $1000 CJ-5, $13,000 in upgrades and modifications. Could not sell it for $5000. Parted it out and got $6000 for the bits and pieces. Had 5 years of fun with it though.
 

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There's always going to be somebody who complains and somebody who complains about them complaining.

He's right about the XJ. My buddy has had one sitting in his driveway untouched since he got a 'deal' on it 4 years ago. But then again he is the king of procrastinators.
 

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Been there and done that... $1000 CJ-5, $13,000 in upgrades and modifications. Could not sell it for $5000. Parted it out and got $6000 for the bits and pieces. Had 5 years of fun with it though.
yeah you definitely lose a lot when doing mods, but it's all a part of the game! got to pay to play.

i think i'll be happy using the cherokee in it's stock form, maybe some entry-level mods
 
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