[MKC CZ]

100%! Absolutely one of my greatest pet peeves when driving. That and people in the right hand passing lane, doing the same speed as the person next to them in the left hand lane. D’oh!

The left lane is the passing lane.

 

[Flybynightcru]

 

[Vikingstaff]

The left lane is the passing lane.

Ha, ha! What was I typing…thinking? Too funny. Went back and edited myself. My wife would say…par for the course with something I would type.

 

[wlbjr]

I have the leather ventilated seats, and have driven in many vehicles that are more comfortable. In fact the regular leather Cherokee seats (the non vented ones) are much more comfortable. That's the price I paid for ventilation. The cushion has to be stiffer so the air can get through.

Different strokes I guess. I find the seats very comfortable… we also have a 2021 CRV hybrid which gets much better mileage, but take the Cherokee on trips because it’s so much more comfortable. I have the vented seats as well.

 

[wlbjr]

I have used ACC on a few cars just to check it out. Not a fan at all!

I guess automatically speeding up and slowing down because the person in front of me cannot keep a constant speed on the freeway is just too dang annoying for me. I like setting cruise at a speed and going at a constant and predictable speed.

I have also wondered if ACC would hurt fuel efficiency…? It is inevitable to pile up behind an alternating speed person on the freeway with it. All that slowing down and then accelerating seems worse for fuel efficiency than just setting and holding the same speed. That said, I never ran it long enough to track mileage. I prefer not to have it, and if bundled with features, keep it off. Too annoying.

Agreed- I HATE ACC! My wife’s Honda has it and on the rare occasion that I drive her car I turn it off.

 

[Flybynightcru]

Agreed- I HATE ACC! My wife’s Honda has it and on the rare occasion that I drive her car I turn it off.

I used to hate it, but now I love it...😎

 

[rumrunner]

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oh man I miss my 20s. hey wifey, wanna try something?

 

[MaineHawk]

I used to hate it, but now I love it...😎

I have found the ACC to be no problem. Set the speed you like and change lanes before you get pinned behind traffic. There is one thing that I watch for. If you do get behind someone and then move over, it will accelerate significantly if the speeds were very different. Just took a few times to realize that.

I have the heated and vented seats. They are very comfortable. It may be different leather from non vented, though. Tougher and not as supple?

 

[Flybynightcru]

I have the heated and vented seats. They are very comfortable. It may be different leather from non vented, though. Tougher and not as supple?

I have them too, maybe a little more firm, but I like that, like a comfy racing seat. I have zero issues with them...😎

 

[PunkTexas]

Super comfortable. I don't understand all the ACC hate. Just put your blinker on and drive around the slow car. The first few times I used it in stop and go traffic was unnerving letting it come to a complete stop then accelerating on it's on. Crazy cool tech. Love it now. Small things like the screen "off" button and the "mute" button are fantastic. The mute button which I just recently started using is very handy. A 3.5mm audio input jack to stream TIDAL through a Dragonfly Colbalt DAC takes audio to an amazing quality level for only $200. "Drama free" audio upgrade...lol.

 

[MaineHawk]

Disclaimer: Only 1 week in, so very little experience with it so far.

However, what REALLY stands out a lot for me is how comfortable it is ...

For the money, practicality, utility, and off road possibilities, the Cherokee Trailhawk is really stealing my heart. And besides, they look so fricken cool!!!

To get back to the OP, the Cherokee rides and drive very well. My expectation for my TH was that it would be rougher and less nimble than other models with more road tuning and tires. This handles better than other crossovers I have been in. That is where Jeep did well with the TH, very comfortable as a daily, but still tough enough to handle some trails. I am not sure if I will do any additional off road mods. I wonder if road manners change with a 2" lift and the oversized off road tires? I am sure some of you know!

 

[Vikingstaff]

I am not sure if I will do any additional off road mods. I wonder if road manners change with a 2" lift and the oversized off road tires? I am sure some of you know!

This is where I am at in my thinking right now. I bought thinking I’d toss a 2” lift on it, and possibly some minor tweaks to accommodate a slightly larger tire. Now, enjoying how comfortable the ride is (exceeding my expectations), I am in a holding pattern with my thoughts on modifying it. I wouldn’t want to do anything that changed its ride, handling and comfort now that I have it.

 

[MaineHawk]

This is where I am at in my thinking right now. I bought thinking I’d toss a 2” lift on it, and possibly some minor tweaks to accommodate a slightly larger tire. Now, enjoying how comfortable the ride is (exceeding my expectations), I am in a holding pattern with my thoughts on modifying it. I wouldn’t want to do anything that changed its ride, handling and comfort now that I have it.

As it is, its TRAIL RATED. Not sure if more capability is needed. I am looking to explore off the beaten path, but still on a path!

 

[Flybynightcru]

I wonder if road manners change with a 2" lift and the oversized off road tires? I am sure some of you know!

Mine really didn't, but tires are key. Obviously going to a "real A/T" from the stock Destination A/T, not a real A/T, can effect handling and ride quality, depending on the tire and the size. I have the MFC 2" lift, and the top strut reinforcement collars, which I recommend for all Cherokees, that's it. Lifting your Trailhawk, or any Cherokee is a fairly precise install, and must be done correctly. There have been MANY examples of how not to do it, and the drama associated right here on this forum. As far as tires go, I chose to go with 245/70's, not a huge difference, and no cutting, trimming, and grinding required. Some have chosen to go bigger and wider, but my analysis is this, it just creates more risk for premature wear and tear on an already somewhat fragile drivetrain to begin with. As for the tires themselves, I researched them for about 6 months before I chose the Toyo Open Country A/T III's. I've run many sets of A/T's through the years, and these are by far the best. The balance between offroad, and excellent street manners is unmatched and impeccable. A/T's have come a long way in just the last few years for sure. My Trailhawks offroad capabilities (I don't get too crazy, as I have dedicated offroad toys for that), and winter driving condition manners are 200% better than stock, and street manners are for the most part unaffected, and just as comfortable as it was stock. It's why I call her my "Cowboy Cadillac", and I'm not even a Cowboy...LOL!!!😉😎

 

[rumrunner]

It's why I call her my "Cowboy Cadillac", and I'm not even a Cowboy...LOL!!!😉😎

are you a mud-slinger?

 

[Flybynightcru]

are you a mud-slinger?

are you a mud-slinger?

No, I hate mud, I go around the mud holes. That stuff is too hard to clean off, and get out from all of the cracks and crevices. I like keeping mine clean and shiny. LOL!!! There's normally not a lot of mud out here here in the western high desert most of the time anyway...😉😎

 

[MaineHawk]

Mine really didn't, but tires are key. Obviously going to a "real A/T" from the stock Destination A/T, not a real A/T, can ..... most part unaffected, and just as comfortable as it was stock. It's why I call her my "Cowboy Cadillac", and I'm not even a Cowboy...LOL!!!😉😎

I will keep an eye out for the TOYOs. They sound like an ideal choice for me. I would like a very good off road tire that doesn't result in the road manners go down. I also would keep the size original and continue to carry the firestone full size spare. Which load rating did you get? I see there are two for the size you purchased. Does a higher load rating also result in a tougher tire that can take sharp rocks better off road?

 

[MKC CZ]

I've never tried the TOYOS but you might want to look at the Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws. I live in the mountains and I run them on all my vehicles. Fairly quiet on the freeway and handle the snow,ice & rain with no problems.

 

[Flybynightcru]

I also would keep the size original and continue to carry the firestone full size spare. Which load rating did you get? I see there are two for the size you purchased. Does a higher load rating also result in a tougher tire that can take sharp rocks better off road?

I run the non LT. They're the SL 110T. The LT's, and E load rated tire in any brand are designed for much heavier vehicles than our KL's, and therefore are very stiff, and will definitely effect the ride quality and handling. I've run many sets of BFG KO2's and though they are definitely the best for pure damn toughness, they are still an LT, even in a 245/65. I found the street manners between the Toyo‘s and the KO2's not even close...😎

 

[Vikingstaff]

. As far as tires go, I chose to go with 245/70's, not a huge difference, and no cutting, trimming, and grinding required. Some have chosen to go bigger and wider, but my analysis is this, it just creates more risk for premature wear and tear on an already somewhat fragile drivetrain to begin with. As for the tires themselves, I researched them for about 6 months before I chose the Toyo Open Country A/T III's. I've run many sets of A/T's through the years, and these are by far the best. The balance between offroad, and excellent street manners is unmatched and impeccable.

Sounds like you found a nice balance in an A/Ttire for the TH. Taking note for when it’s time to replace the Destinations. Two follow up questions. 1 - what has been the MPG impact of switching to the Toyo’s? 2 - with them being a slightly different size, is the MPH accurate, or slightly off from programming? If off, how much?

Side note, I’ve appreciated your info in a variety of posts as a new TH owner. Thanks for your contributions and assistance to us TH newbies.