[Hess]

Hi I was wondering if anyone is or has run the Nokian Outpost AT. They look really appetizing as I live in Denver and Ski a lot during the winter and all the reviews seem really positive for winter driving yet still aggressive for off-roading. I was dead set on the Falkens as I have ran them in the past on my Taco but they are heavy in comparison. The Nokians state 31 pounds Vs. Falkens 39 lbs in the 245/65/17. Side note they are also on sale 20% off from Simple tire right now.

Second question. If I go with the stock size then decide that I want to lift it later on 1.5", or 2" lift max will it look funny?

 

[Flybynightcru]

Hi I was wondering if anyone is or has run the Nokian Outpost AT. They look really appetizing as I live in Denver and Ski a lot during the winter and all the reviews seem really positive for winter driving yet still aggressive for off-roading. I was dead set on the Falkens as I have ran them in the past on my Taco but they are heavy in comparison. The Nokians state 31 pounds Vs. Falkens 39 lbs in the 245/65/17. Side note they are also on sale 20% off from Simple tire right now.

Second question. If I go with the stock size then decide that I want to lift it later on 1.5", or 2" lift max will it look funny?


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I don't know much about that tire, but for like $6 and change more per tire, I can give an honest recommendation. I'm running the Toyo A/T III's, and at 34lbs they're the best A/T I've ever run. I live in Utah, and like you in Colorado we've had the most snow this year in a couple decades, and these things destroy the snow. They also have the best on road street manners as well, and a 65,000 mile warranty. I've definitely put them to the test, and when I wear them out, I will for sure be buying another set. I do have a 2" lift, and I run 245/70/17's...😎

 

[Hess]

I don't know much about that tire, but for like $6 and change more per tire, I can give an honest recommendation. I'm running the Toyo A/T III's, and at 34lbs they're the best A/T I've ever run. I live in Utah, and like you in Colorado we've had the most snow this year in a couple decades, and these things destroy the snow. They also have the best on road street manners as well, and a 65,000 mile warranty. I've definitely put them to the test, and when I wear them out, I will for sure be buying another set. I do have a 2" lift, and I run 245/70/17's...😎

Yea I do like the Toyos, I have ran them in the past and preferred the Falkens over the Toyos however they were on an F150 vs. the Falkens on my Taco so not really a fair comparison.

 

[Hess]

I don't know much about that tire, but for like $6 and change more per tire, I can give an honest recommendation. I'm running the Toyo A/T III's, and at 34lbs they're the best A/T I've ever run. I live in Utah, and like you in Colorado we've had the most snow this year in a couple decades, and these things destroy the snow. They also have the best on road street manners as well, and a 65,000 mile warranty. I've definitely put them to the test, and when I wear them out, I will for sure be buying another set. I do have a 2" lift, and I run 245/70/17's...😎

Also I can get the Falkens for $179.35 each vs. the Toyos $219.63. $160 a set cheaper. Not that its about the $ per say I'm used to spending $450/tire for 37s. .

 

[Flybynightcru]

Yea I do like the Toyos, I have ran them in the past and preferred the Falkens over the Toyos however they were on an F150 vs. the Falkens on my Taco so not really a fair comparison.

The one thing you don't want to do is run any LT on the Cherokee, they're far too stiff and heavy. I've actually converted two dedicated Wildpeak guys over to the Toyo‘s. One drives a Tacoma, and the other a 4 Runner. The Wildpeak is a great tire, but the problem we see around here with our rocky terrain is the chunking of the rubber. This has not been an issue with the Toyo‘s...😎

 

[Hess]

The one thing you don't want to do is run any LT on the Cherokee, they're far too stiff and heavy. I've actually converted two dedicated Wildpeak guys over to the Toyo‘s. One drives a Tacoma, and the other a 4 Runner. The Wildpeak is a great tire, but the problem we see around here with our rocky terrain is the chunking of the rubber. This has not been an issue with the Toyo‘s...😎

I do understand the LT, however I have to disagree with the chunking for me personally. I put 38K mile on mine in about 2 years with no issues and sold it with plenty of tread.

 

[Flybynightcru]

Another tire I've been researching, and keeping an eye on is the Maxxis Razr AT. I have another friend who just put a set of those on his JLU. Really nice looking, and well performing tire so far, but time will tell. They don't have it in my 245/70 yet, but they do have 245/65's...😎

 

[Hess]

Another tire I've been researching, and keeping an eye on is the Maxxis Razr AT. I have another friend who just put a set of those on his JLU. Really nice looking, and well performing tire so far, but time will tell. They don't have it in my 245/70 yet, but they do have 245/65's...😎
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I do like the look of these a lot. I just really want something that performs well in the snow and wont give me any issues offraod. If I am being completely honest I will be ordering a 2024 Wrangler Rubicon as soon as they are announced so don't want to throw too much money into this however its almost paid off so I will probably keep in conjunction with the new Wrangler. I just miss harder trails too much.

 

[Hess]

Here is the list of trails I did last year some more than once so I do spend a lot of time offroad. There will be quite a few trails on this list that I wont be able to do in the Cherokee but I do want to do some just to compare to the Wrangler.

Switzerland Trail

Switzerland Trail

Pennyslvania Gulch

Fins N Things

Hell's Revenge

Top of the World

Metal Masher

Eagle Rock

Saran Wrap

Slaughterhouse Gulch

Pickle Gulch

Mount Baldy

Eagle Rock

Saran Wrap

Geneva Creek

Spring Creek

Geneva Creek

Fins N Things

Hell's Revenge with Hell's Gate

Poison Spider

Chinn's Lake

Red Cone Pass

Kenny's Cabin

Middle St. Vrain and Coney Flats

Hancock Pass

Polmeroy Lake

Tincup Pass

Mt. Princeton

Chinnamans Gulch

McClellan Mtn

Argentine Pass

Holy Cross City

Mill Creek

Red Cone Pass

Webster Pass

Yankee Boy Basin

Governor Basin

Sydney Basin

Ophir Pass

Mineral Creek

Poughkeepsie Gulch

Hurricane Pass

Corkscrew Pass

Imogene Pass

Black Bear Pass

Steel Bender

Hell's Revenge with Hell's Gate

Gold Bar Rim

China Wall

 

[Flybynightcru]

Well, mine lives in Moab about half the year, and I've put it to the test. Now, I don't push it to the limits, as I have other dedicated offroad toys, Can Am Maverick X3 XRC, and XRS, but the Trailhawk has a few trophies of her own. I'll never go back to a Wrangler, they're like driving an old dump truck down the highway, compared to the Trailhawk...😉😎

 

[Hess]

Well, mine lives in Moab about half the year, and I've put it to the test. Now, I don't push it to the limits, as I have other dedicated offroad toys, Can Am Maverick X3 XRC, and XRS, but the Trailhawk has a few trophies of her own. I'll never go back to a Wrangler, they're like driving an old dump truck down the highway, compared to the Trailhawk...😉😎
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Pritchett in a Cherokee? I have to see a video?

Prefer the Cherokee over a Wrangler? Man I don't know maybe for a 10+ hour trip, but mine was setup so nicely I could dive it at 90+ mph with one finger on 37s and beadlocks and it was geared correctly so it held gears much better than the Cherokee does.

 

[Flybynightcru]

Pritchett in a Cherokee? I have to see a video?

Ya, you got me!!! I didn't quite complete that one in the Trailhawk, as I didn't want to destroy it...LOL!!! I kinda cheated on that one, and Metal Masher with the XRC sitting on 35's...😉😎

 

[Flybynightcru]

The Trailhawk is the official Can Am tow and support vehicle for the "Moab Slayer" XRC, and the "Desert Cadillac" XRS...Way more capable and fun than any Jeep will ever be. I go where no Jeep will ever go...LOL!!!😉😎

 

[Hess]

The Trailhawk is the official Can Am tow and support vehicle for the "Moab Slayer" XRC, and the "Desert Cadillac" XRS...Way more capable and fun than any Jeep will ever be. I go where no Jeep will ever go...LOL!!!😉😎
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Nice Rigs! I have contemplated getting another Rzr and I probably would if I lived closer to Moab.

 

[Flybynightcru]

Nice Rigs! I have contemplated getting another Rzr and I probably would if I lived closer to Moab.

Thanks. The XRC is my third build, and is still a work in progress, but it's coming together nicely...😎

 

[Rand]

the falken at3w is 37lb in 245/65r17 .
unless you were listing the 245/70r17 size.
its also XL load in that size so more weight.

The 235/65r17 is 31lb for comparison.

 

[Hess]

the falken at3w is 37lb in 245/65r17 .
unless you were listing the 245/70r17 size.
its also XL load in that size so more weight.

The 235/65r17 is 31lb for comparison.

I was pulling weight specs from both Discount and Falkens website?

 

[Rand]

I was pulling weight specs from both Discount and Falkens website?

Tirerack stands corrected .

Something odd going on besides tirerack's weight being wrong
some of their T rated weigh more than the H rated
and not just XL

the 225/65r17 T with standard load is 33.7
and the larger 235/65r17 H SL is 31.1