[Lindy]

They've been around... I wonder how many rocker failures they had in over 10 million
units to date?

This. 👆

How many reports by different individuals on the internet forums are really posted with the rocker failure? 50? 100? 200? Does a couple hundred reports out of 10 million engines produced necessarily mean that the engine is prone to that problem? Yet people will see those posts and then confidently proclaim that it is a 'common' problem. In fact, it is those posts that will you will see many of, far, far more than posts from individuals who actually had the problem.

Forums like this can be very helpful, but trying to access a vehicles long term reliability or issue list by the forums alone will always skew heavily to the negative. It's not like 10s of thousands of people are going to show up on the forums to tell everyone how great their vehicle is treating them or how many miles they got on it before getting another one.

Would Jeep or any other manufacturer continue making millions of engines which have a common problem of rocker failures before the engine even hits 100k? Planned obsolescence? Not exactly a good strategy when many of those owners have long term warranties is it?

I too would really like to see an accurate percentage of how many of those 10 million engines had the rocker issues. Or more data on the engine years affected.

Having said all that, I don't think any engine should ever require top end work before the 150 or 200k mark, so it is disappointing to hear of any reports of it. But what I question is how prevalent the issue is...

 

[Lindy]

Are you sure its going to matter? Very few people who are in the financial position to even consider buying a new car actually keep one for more than 60-100k miles so what kind of car buyer are you?

Very few people??? Besides myself, I know plenty of people who can rack up 100k on a new car in just a few years. Hell, I've never even owned a car which didn't go over 100k. And they still looked new when I got rid of them.

Can my Jeep do it without top end work? I guess I will find out.

 

[Lindy]

so based on that, guy told me two things
1. 2T oil change is more than v6.
2. 2T also need premium fuel than regular gas.
V6 he said been around for long . All the stalls that were happening happened on 2T , so he , as a salesman said to go with V6. Not a pushy guy..

If you want you can read the thread I've posted below. It is the 'ad nauseam' discussion Mark refers to in his post.

It does contains some useful info at first, but then it dissolves into a flustercluck as our resident troll jumps in and starts trolling our resident 2.0 fanboys. Then, much to his delight, they feed him the responses he wants and the thread becomes a pointless dead horse beating affair. Read at your own risk and please, I'm begging you here, don't add any further posts to it.

Better engine 2.0T or the 3.2 V6?

I am looking at buying a Jeep Cherokee in the somewhat near future. I have driven a Cherokee in the past, as a rental, which had a 2.4 and a relative has had leased Cherokee's with the 3.2. I was not impressed with the 2.4. I have had MOPARS forever and currently have a Chrysler 200S with the...

www.jeepcherokeeclub.com

 

[Lindy]

You guys been all over the place.. You guys even take a break lol

Hey, we are just one big happy, somewhat dysfunctional family here.

Seriously though, this is a great forum with lots of good info and people who can answer almost any Cherokee question. However, the question of which engine is best will always be elusive and debatable. haha

 

[Lindy]

FYI I was skimming over the tundra and 4runner forums and new tundra and 4 runners seems to have some issues. Seems buying a car is more of luck than anything nowdays

Well, one thing I think most people here would agree on, is that cars nowadays are far more complicated with all their computer chips, (up to a thousand of them per an article that I just read in Time magazine) sensors/relays, software code with the ever present bugs, etc. Just more things...expensive things...to go wrong. So yeah, it is a bit of a crap-shoot.