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Hello All,

I am new to the forum but this post series helped me a lot. I am just done with swapping my original speakers (Cherokee '19, TH, 6 speaker base system) to JBL ones to GX302 in the dash and gx963 in the doors. All was fitting perfectly. Done that with Metra 72-6514 (Changed polarity in the plug itself - quite easy) and 72-7902 in the dash.

In general sound quality is not comparable to the stock speakers. Good bass, treble, separation - sounds like premium.

BTW: I had the discussion with Crutchfield folks about GX963, they told me that these don't fit my Cherokee :)

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Does anyone know if you get more than just the mid bass signal sent to the front doors on a 6 speaker system? Trying to figure if I should go with a two-way speaker in the front doors or just the one-way speakers that I’ve got coming with the Kicker upgrade kit
 

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Hello All,

I am new to the forum but this post series helped me a lot. I am just done with swapping my original speakers (Cherokee '19, TH, 6 speaker base system) to JBL ones to GX302 in the dash and gx963 in the doors. All was fitting perfectly. Done that with Metra 72-6514 (Changed polarity in the plug itself - quite easy) and 72-7902 in the dash.

In general sound quality is not comparable to the stock speakers. Good bass, treble, separation - sounds like premium.

BTW: I had the discussion with Crutchfield folks about GX963, they told me that these don't fit my Cherokee :)

Marcin
How did you change the polarity in the 72-6514 adaptors? Is there a way to release the wires from the plug and re-insert in the correct position? Or did you just cut the wires and solder them back together on opposite sides? Thanks!


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Does anyone know if you get more than just the mid bass signal sent to the front doors on a 6 speaker system? Trying to figure if I should go with a two-way speaker in the front doors or just the one-way speakers that I’ve got coming with the Kicker upgrade kit
Don't put anything than just woofers in the doors. The front doors does not play any tweeter frequencies but the rear do, but there is already so many tweeters in the car.

I now regret that I upgraded the rear pillars, too mutch tweeter sound that hits your ears. Now when I have tried different speakers my peace of advice is to just upgrdae the dash speakers. There is no win in changing the others imo. The subwoofer seems to be impossible to upgrdae without getting an extra amp.
 

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How did you change the polarity in the 72-6514 adaptors? Is there a way to release the wires from the plug and re-insert in the correct position? Or did you just cut the wires and solder them back together on opposite sides? Thanks!


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I figured out how to release the wires from the plug and got them re-inserted for the correct polarity. I used a 2 inch construction staple to push and release the small tab inside the plug while gently pulling on the wire to release it. After inserting the wires back in the opposite location I used a small pair of needle nose plies to pull the metal "pin" to make it lock back in position.
 

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Don't put anything than just woofers in the doors. The front doors does not play any tweeter frequencies but the rear do, but there is already so many tweeters in the car.

I now regret that I upgraded the rear pillars, too mutch tweeter sound that hits your ears. Now when I have tried different speakers my peace of advice is to just upgrdae the dash speakers. There is no win in changing the others imo. The subwoofer seems to be impossible to upgrdae without getting an extra amp.

I have a set of two-way 6x9s that I want to swap out in my basic 6-speaker system (already upgraded the dash speakers). Would you recommend I change out the rear doors or front doors? Based on your comment above it seems the rear doors would be a better choice, but was just curious what your thoughts are. Thanks!


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I have a set of two-way 6x9s that I want to swap out in my basic 6-speaker system (already upgraded the dash speakers). Would you recommend I change out the rear doors or front doors? Based on your comment above it seems the rear doors would be a better choice, but was just curious what your thoughts are. Thanks!


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I recently bought and installed 6x9" coax in my 4 doors, it was not a good idea. They were at 4 ohm and there was too much treble in the car and minimal punch from the woofers. I decided to replace them whith woofers only and 2 ohm. I bought Audison 6.5" 2 ohm woofers to the doors with adapters.
You probably want nice midbase punch at your pants when you're driving so 2 ohm is a must to get the power.
If you don't have speakers in rear pillars tweeters in back door can be ok.


You can compare, install dem in the front and then in the rear to see what's best.
 

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I recently bought and installed 6x9" coax in my 4 doors, it was not a good idea. They were at 4 ohm and there was too much treble in the car and minimal punch from the woofers. I decided to replace them whith woofers only and 2 ohm. I bought Audison 6.5" 2 ohm woofers to the doors with adapters.
You probably want nice midbase punch at your pants when you're driving so 2 ohm is a must to get the power.
If you don't have speakers in rear pillars tweeters in back door can be ok.


You can compare, install dem in the front and then in the rear to see what's best.

The only tweeters I have now are in the dash since I upgraded those with Pioneer TS-A878 speakers so I think I will try them out in the rear doors first to see if that helps balance out the sound. My 6x9s are 4 ohm (Pioneer TS-G6930F) so do you think it would be ok to put some 2 ohm woofers in the front while running 4 ohm speakers in the rear, or would this mess something up?
 

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The only tweeters I have now are in the dash since I upgraded those with Pioneer TS-A878 speakers so I think I will try them out in the rear doors first to see if that helps balance out the sound. My 6x9s are 4 ohm (Pioneer TS-G6930F) so do you think it would be ok to put some 2 ohm woofers in the front while running 4 ohm speakers in the rear, or would this mess something up?
Sorry but I don't have the competence to answere that. I think it will work just fine but the 4 ohm will have less volume due to less power.
 

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Well I just finished the complete set up as described from the OP. I first did the 5 small ones, then did the 2 6x9 front doors and today just finished the 2 rear doors. And man I can't even describe how MUCH BETTER this system sounds now. I was hesitant to do the rear doors because it sounded great already but now I'm glad I did the rears. The biggest difference is in just stereo mode, not surround which I mostly listen to; in stereo the rears door speakers really fill the jeep nicely, almost sounds like I've added extra speakers. Anyway if anyone wants a great upgrade without breaking the bank this is it. Thank you to the OP for making this thread.
 

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Now 6-7 month later after my speaker upgrade I can tell you what I think about my choice.

I did install JL C2 3,5" in the dash and rear, at first I thought the treble was too sharp, I couldn't play any loud volumes caus it realy hurt my ears. After many hours of playing the speakers got breaked in and finaly started to sound very nice. I don't think there is any onther speaker that can do better job than the JL. I also installed two JL in rear pillars, I have covered them with foam absorbant because they irritate, I regret that I did replace the OEM.

The doors now have Audison 6.5" 2ohm, there is no mid punch that I want to have so I am considering to replace them in summer to probably Gladen RS 165 and also install a crossover filter in the rear doors so the treble signal does not goes to the speakers.

I did stiffen the subwoofer panel, at high volume the woofer got the panel to vibrate a lot. Now when I pushing the woofer grill inwards to the woofer it does not bend. The whole panel in the back is now rock solid. I do consider to try to replace the OEM woofer too but it is such a gamble.
 

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The only tweeters I have now are in the dash since I upgraded those with Pioneer TS-A878 speakers so I think I will try them out in the rear doors first to see if that helps balance out the sound. My 6x9s are 4 ohm (Pioneer TS-G6930F) so do you think it would be ok to put some 2 ohm woofers in the front while running 4 ohm speakers in the rear, or would this mess something up?
Hi there, got nearly the same fitting as you, got the 878 on the dashboard and 4 x 6930.( front door and back door. It makes such a change in quality from the originals... wondering what they put such a s..t . The bass surprisingly such an improvement and without saying for the mid and the tremble. I was considering to put an amp, but not sure anymore, but I might want to put a active subwoofer ( pioneer too...) under the front seat. I ll need to figure out where to take the signal from. I must say I am sold to pioneer I mount them in my so many cars and never been deceived. best regards to all of you.
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Hi there, got nearly the same fitting as you, got the 878 on the dashboard and 4 x 6930.( front door and back door. It makes such a change in quality from the originals... wondering what they put such a s..t . The bass surprisingly such an improvement and without saying for the mid and the tremble. I was considering to put an amp, but not sure anymore, but I might want to put a active subwoofer ( pioneer too...) under the front seat. I ll need to figure out where to take the signal from. I must say I am sold to pioneer I mount them in my so many cars and never been deceived. best regards to all of you.
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It is not recommended to put coax in the doors, the tweeters in front door does not work and tweeters in back doors makes imo too much treble.
 

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It is not recommended to put coax in the doors, the tweeters in front door does not work and tweeters in back doors makes imo too much treble.
Hi again, well I got the six speaker version with no amp it seems to me that the tremble works, at least much better than the original one. The length of the tremble are such that if they are not in line of your ear, we will not hear them very well, they will not “travel” well in some extend, if you have tremble in the back door and your are seat in front you will not hear them that much, that s why usually we have tremble in the dashboard or the side pillars. I wanted just to point out what difference it makes the aftermarket for instance pioneer and the OEM’s. I am not a specialist but I use to built boom box and I have studied for my own interest the travel of tremble, medium and bass. What I found interesting in putting 3ways speaker in your door is that, I found and it is very personal obviously, it enriched the spectrum of the sound even if you do not hear them ( tremble) completely , I found it make a kind of overlapping which suit my ears, but again it is very personal ( a bit like a good coffee or wine, might not be good to someone else !!) Best regards and happy new year 2020 which comes at big steps
 

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Hi again, well I got the six speaker version with no amp it seems to me that the tremble works, at least much better than the original one. The length of the tremble are such that if they are not in line of your ear, we will not hear them very well, they will not “travel” well in some extend, if you have tremble in the back door and your are seat in front you will not hear them that much, that s why usually we have tremble in the dashboard or the side pillars. I wanted just to point out what difference it makes the aftermarket for instance pioneer and the OEM’s. I am not a specialist but I use to built boom box and I have studied for my own interest the travel of tremble, medium and bass. What I found interesting in putting 3ways speaker in your door is that, I found and it is very personal obviously, it enriched the spectrum of the sound even if you do not hear them ( tremble) completely , I found it make a kind of overlapping which suit my ears, but again it is very personal ( a bit like a good coffee or wine, might not be good to someone else !!) Best regards and happy new year 2020 which comes at big steps
You use the word "tremble", is that another word for bass? I'm no expert in english but I'm doing my best.

Maybe all channels in the 6 speaker set is full range, the 9 speaker is not, what I know only back doors are full range. Probably the dash speakers and pillars are only higher tones like 4000+Hz or something.
OEM in the trailhawk 9 speaker set has only woofers in the doors, i tried coax in all four doors, in front no treble at all but in the back door I was full range but it made the sound terrible so I had to change to only woofeers in the doors.
 

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Tremble is another word for the highs. I believe the separation tremble/ medium / bass should have been done then the amp, since you have 9 speakers you got a separate amp, which I have not ( since I have the 6 speakers version and that probably explain why I got full range in my 4 doors
 
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